DavidLeon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:07 pm
Jesus, as Michael, spoke on behalf of God thousands of years before Jesus the man existed.
Then Michael spoke on behalf of God.
The lake of fire is real. It is where those whose names are not written in the Book of Life are cast after the judgment. They quickly perish -- never to live or exist again. It is called the "second death."
The first death is appointed to all mankind, including Jesus. Once Jesus was born as a man, He had no choice in His first death. Thus His death saved no one.
After the last human nonbeliever is cast into the lake of fire, there is no more death, as there are no more humans.
Yes, since there are no more deaths -- there is no longer any need for graves. So both have been destroyed.
DavidLeon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:07 pmSin equals death. Jesus takes away sin. Death is no more.
Under the New Testament Covenant, sin no longer affects our salvation. Salvation is a gift, not something earned by fulfilling all of God's laws.
DavidLeon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:07 pmYou say spirits live forever, and I agree that they can but they can also be destroyed.
They can be punished and their powers taken away, but they live forever.
Define what you mean by "destroyed."
DavidLeon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:07 pmMan, who is flesh and blood, that is Adam, was meant to live forever.
If God created Adam to live forever, then Adam would still be alive.
DavidLeon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:07 pmThe meek will inherit the earth and live forever upon it. So the taking away the tree of life is a temporary arrangement, correct?
Correct, believers will be given access once again to the Tree of Life.
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Earlier, you wrote:Angels can take on human form. That's what Michael did, becoming the man Jesus. Jesus isn't God, Jesus is a god.
The two testaments of the Bible contain covenants between
mankind and God the Father.
If Jesus is a god, then the story line of the Bible immediately falls to pieces -- because gods are not involved or beholden to either of those covenants.
Jesus was a
man who fell under coverage of the original covenant between man and God. He lived a sinless life and became the first and only inheritor of everlasting life under that covenant by never sinning. The wages of sin is death, but He never sinned, therefore He is due to inherit everlasting life under the first covenant when it is probated.
Jesus' reward is His to do with as He pleases. So He offers it to any other human who will accept Him as their Savior. Thus salvation from the wages of sin is now a gift of God through Jesus Christ.
Here is the biblical justification for creation of a new and better covenant:
Romans 5 wrote:15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.