Who Started That Lie You Are a Child of God?

[jimtatertayte]

A child of the devil:
John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil,
and the lusts of your father ye will do.

A child of God:
1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Who Started That Lie You Are a Child of God?

[bjs1]

A child of the devil:
John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil,
and the lusts of your father ye will do.

A child of God:
1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Who Started That Lie You Are a Child of God?

The belief might have started with the Apostle John, who wrote in John 1:12, “But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God.”

And again in 1 John 3:1, “See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are.”

On the other hand it might have started with the Apostle Paul, who wrote in Romans 8:16, “The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.”

I notice that you also quote the Apostle John, so I assume that you consider him an authority.

[jimtatertayte]

A child of the devil:
John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil,
and the lusts of your father ye will do.

A child of God:
1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Who Started That Lie You Are a Child of God?

The belief might have started with the Apostle John, who wrote in John 1:12, “But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God.”

If I become your Father I give you the right to be my child.

So who started that lie you are a child of God?

[jimtatertayte]

A child of the devil:
John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil,
and the lusts of your father ye will do.

A child of God:
1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Who Started That Lie You Are a Child of God?

And again in 1 John 3:1, “See what kind of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called children of God; and so we are.”

What else would the offspring of God be called? The children of the devil?
So who started that lie you are a child of God?

[jimtatertayte]

A child of the devil:
John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil,
and the lusts of your father ye will do.

A child of God:
1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Who Started That Lie You Are a Child of God?

On the other hand it might have started with the Apostle Paul, who wrote in Romans 8:16, “The Spirit himself testifies with our spirit that we are God's children.”

Why would anything have to testify to a child of God they are child of God?
Did your mother have to testify to you that you were her child?
Who Started That Lie You Are a Child of God?

[jimtatertayte]

A child of the devil:
John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil,
and the lusts of your father ye will do.

A child of God:
1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Who Started That Lie You Are a Child of God?

I notice that you also quote the Apostle John, so I assume that you consider him an authority.

No I do not consider him anything other than he is him.
I hold the Spirit of God as the one and only authority.

[jimtatertayte]

If you are a child of God then you will have the traits and instincts of God passed on to you
from birth. That will more than verify that you are born of God by that to which you live in the Spirit.

[Checkpoint]

A child of the devil:
John 8:44
Ye are of your father the devil,
and the lusts of your father ye will do.

A child of God:
1 John 5:18
We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not;
but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself,
and that wicked one toucheth him not.

Who Started That Lie You Are a Child of God?

I notice that you also quote the Apostle John, so I assume that you consider him an authority.

No I do not consider him anything other than he is him.
I hold the Spirit of God as the one and only authority.

I suggest that God is the ultimate authority, and that He gives some to whom or to what He chooses.

[bjs1]

If I become your Father I give you the right to be my child.

What else would the offspring of God be called? The children of the devil?

Why would anything have to testify to a child of God they are child of God?
Did your mother have to testify to you that you were her child?

No I do not consider him anything other than he is him.
I hold the Spirit of God as the one and only authority.

Yes, if you become my father then you can give me the right to be my child. You are not my father. I am a child of the living God, by His will and purpose and power. You have neither the authority nor the power to claim otherwise.

There are many people in the world and in history. Some might be called the children of God, and others might be called the children of the devil. My interest in the children of God. I will leave the children of the Devil to their own family matters.

Of course my mother told me that she is my mother. Did your mother never tell you that she is/was your mother? That would be super sad if she did not tell you.

You may continue to call it a lie all you wish, but it is the Spirit of God, at work through the Holy Scriptures, who declares that we are children of God.

[Checkpoint]

If you are a child of God then you will have the traits and instincts of God passed on to you
from birth. That will more than verify that you are born of God by that to which you live in the Spirit.

Quite so.

However, those born from above. as with hose born from below, need time, nourishment, and experience, so they can grow to maturity and truly manifest the traits and instincts of God their Father.