Who Started That Lie God Forgives You of Your Sins?

[jimtatertayte]

Mark 4:12
That seeing they may see,
and not perceive; and hearing they may hear,
and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted,
and their sins should be forgiven them.

[2timothy316]

Why do you care if we are being lying to? Are you going to save us from the lie? Are you able to set us all straight? Is that why you keep posting these threads? What do you want us to do?

[PinSeeker]

Mark 4:12
That seeing they may see,
and not perceive; and hearing they may hear,
and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted,
and their sins should be forgiven them.

Jesus is here speaking of those outside the kingdom -- non-Christians - in a form of prophetic warning, warning of the serious consequences for those who do not open their hearts to Him. In other words, though they have not repented and believed Him, he speaks to them in parables so that they might clearly see their need for salvation and be more likely to make the decision to follow Him and thus be forgiven of their sin ("...lest they be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them"). Verily, He speaks in parables so that they may be not somehow kept in the dark but rather enlightened. It is a message of inclusion and hope for unbelievers -- that all this is still possible and made more likely by speaking in parables -- rather than exclusion and hopelessness for them.

Do you begin to see how you apparently understand so much of Scripture in a backwards way? Or actually, have twisted it in an effort to make it backwards to suit your false narrative? Because this is pretty much the case with all your "who started the lie" diatribes.

[jimtatertayte]

Mark 4:12
That seeing they may see,
and not perceive; and hearing they may hear,
and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted,
and their sins should be forgiven them.

Jesus is here speaking of those outside the kingdom -- non-Christians - in a form of prophetic warning, warning of the serious consequences for those who do not open their hearts to Him. In other words, though they have not repented and believed Him, he speaks to them in parables so that they might clearly see their need for salvation and be more likely to make the decision to follow Him and thus be forgiven of their sin ("...lest they be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them"). Verily, He speaks in parables so that they may be not somehow kept in the dark but rather enlightened. It is a message of inclusion and hope for unbelievers -- that all this is still possible and made more likely by speaking in parables -- rather than exclusion and hopelessness for them.

Do you begin to see how you apparently understand so much of Scripture in a backwards way? Or actually, have twisted it in an effort to make it backwards to suit your false narrative? Because this is pretty much the case with all your "who started the lie" diatribes.

Everything I post has a purpose, and it will accomplish it.
It is not dependent upon whether or not if anyone believes it or understands it but rather
the purpose I intend it.

[jimtatertayte]

Why do you care if we are being lying to? Are you going to save us from the lie? Are you able to set us all straight? Is that why you keep posting these threads? What do you want us to do?

I am able to do all things through the Spirit of God.
You are doing what I want you to do, if you want to be saved you will have to save yourself
for I do not see any of you worth what I would have to suffer or do to save you
from yourselves or them that own you. So no I am not going to save you.

[2timothy316]

if you want to be saved you will have to save yourself

Do I get that choice? Is it my choice as whether I'm saved or not?

[jimtatertayte]

if you want to be saved you will have to save yourself

Do I get that choice? Is it my choice as whether I'm saved or not?

No, it is even written in your god the book,
Matthew 22:14
For many are called, but few are chosen.

[2timothy316]

if you want to be saved you will have to save yourself

Do I get that choice? Is it my choice as whether I'm saved or not?

No, it is even written in your god the book,
Matthew 22:14
For many are called, but few are chosen.

Then when you told me "if you want to be saved you will have to save yourself" you were lying.

[jimtatertayte]

if you want to be saved you will have to save yourself

Do I get that choice? Is it my choice as whether I'm saved or not?

No, it is even written in your god the book,
Matthew 22:14
For many are called, but few are chosen.

Then when you told me "if you want to be saved you will have to save yourself" you were lying.

You say I am lying. Then if that is true then do not believe me.
But if that is not true then believe me.

What you believe or do not believe that I say to you
will either justify you or condemn you.

For it was you that stated I am lying.

[2timothy316]

if you want to be saved you will have to save yourself

Do I get that choice? Is it my choice as whether I'm saved or not?

No, it is even written in your god the book,
Matthew 22:14
For many are called, but few are chosen.

Then when you told me "if you want to be saved you will have to save yourself" you were lying.

You say I am lying. Then if that is true then do not believe me.
But if that is not true then believe me.

What you believe or do not believe that I say to you
will either justify you or condemn you.

For it was you that stated I am lying.

Read you're own words. You said, "save yourself" and then turned around and said I can't do that. Why are you telling people to do something they can't do?