If God saves you, it will be for the lake of fire.
None of you are going to be on the new earth.
This includes all you reading this thread.
Who Started That Lie You Are Saved?
Who Started That Lie You Are Saved?
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Post #2[Replying to jimtatertayte in post #1]
The serpent or Satan started that lie:
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: (Genesis 3:4)
Satan lied when he informed Eve that she would live forever, "Ye shall not surely die."
Mainstream Christian theologians have incorporated that lie into their theologies for nearly two thousand years!
The serpent or Satan started that lie:
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: (Genesis 3:4)
Satan lied when he informed Eve that she would live forever, "Ye shall not surely die."
Mainstream Christian theologians have incorporated that lie into their theologies for nearly two thousand years!
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Post #3May you all have peace,
[Replying to jimtatertayte in post #1]
The lie is in the OP:
Not only does the OP have no idea who may or may not ever read this thread, none of what has been said is in line with the truth that Christ (the Truth) taught. He did not teach us to go around condemning others, especially if they have no hope of ever turning around, repenting, and being saved - He taught us not to judge (lest we be judged) and He taught us to forgive (and we will be forgiven).
As for the Judgment (wherein some will be resurrected to life and some will be resurrected to judgment and the second death), that has not yet occurred. So no one can say who will be cast into the lake of fire.
Also, if no one reading the thread can ever be on the new earth, and anyone reading the thread who is saved, is saved only for the lake of fire, what is the point in making the statement in the OP to begin with?
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[Replying to jimtatertayte in post #1]
The lie is in the OP:
If God saves you, it will be for the lake of fire.
None of you are going to be on the new earth.
This includes all you reading this thread.
Not only does the OP have no idea who may or may not ever read this thread, none of what has been said is in line with the truth that Christ (the Truth) taught. He did not teach us to go around condemning others, especially if they have no hope of ever turning around, repenting, and being saved - He taught us not to judge (lest we be judged) and He taught us to forgive (and we will be forgiven).
As for the Judgment (wherein some will be resurrected to life and some will be resurrected to judgment and the second death), that has not yet occurred. So no one can say who will be cast into the lake of fire.
Also, if no one reading the thread can ever be on the new earth, and anyone reading the thread who is saved, is saved only for the lake of fire, what is the point in making the statement in the OP to begin with?
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Post #4What part of it is a lie?myth-one.com wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 3:47 pm [Replying to jimtatertayte in post #1]
The serpent or Satan started that lie:
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: (Genesis 3:4)
Satan lied when he informed Eve that she would live forever, "Ye shall not surely die."
Mainstream Christian theologians have incorporated that lie into their theologies for nearly two thousand years!
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Post #5I take it you had high expectations of being on the new earth.tam wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:34 pm May you all have peace,
[Replying to jimtatertayte in post #1]
The lie is in the OP:
If God saves you, it will be for the lake of fire.
None of you are going to be on the new earth.
This includes all you reading this thread.
Not only does the OP have no idea who may or may not ever read this thread, none of what has been said is in line with the truth that Christ (the Truth) taught. He did not teach us to go around condemning others, especially if they have no hope of ever turning around, repenting, and being saved - He taught us not to judge (lest we be judged) and He taught us to forgive (and we will be forgiven).
As for the Judgment (wherein some will be resurrected to life and some will be resurrected to judgment and the second death), that has not yet occurred. So no one can say who will be cast into the lake of fire.
Also, if no one reading the thread can ever be on the new earth, and anyone reading the thread who is saved, is saved only for the lake of fire, what is the point in making the statement in the OP to begin with?
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Aren't you glad I revealed the truth about you to you?
At least you will not be one of those who never saw it coming.
Cannot God open up the portals of time and allow me to look
through it and see that none of you are going to be on the new earth
long before the day of the great judgement it takes place...in time?
Yes or no?
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Post #6May you all have peace,
If I need truth about me revealed to me, then my Lord Jaheshua will reveal it to me.
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Why do you 'take it' that I had high expectations of being on the new earth?jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:00 pmI take it you had high expectations of being on the new earth.tam wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:34 pm May you all have peace,
[Replying to jimtatertayte in post #1]
The lie is in the OP:
If God saves you, it will be for the lake of fire.
None of you are going to be on the new earth.
This includes all you reading this thread.
Not only does the OP have no idea who may or may not ever read this thread, none of what has been said is in line with the truth that Christ (the Truth) taught. He did not teach us to go around condemning others, especially if they have no hope of ever turning around, repenting, and being saved - He taught us not to judge (lest we be judged) and He taught us to forgive (and we will be forgiven).
As for the Judgment (wherein some will be resurrected to life and some will be resurrected to judgment and the second death), that has not yet occurred. So no one can say who will be cast into the lake of fire.
Also, if no one reading the thread can ever be on the new earth, and anyone reading the thread who is saved, is saved only for the lake of fire, what is the point in making the statement in the OP to begin with?
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You did not reveal any truth about me to me.Aren't you glad I revealed the truth about you to you?
If I need truth about me revealed to me, then my Lord Jaheshua will reveal it to me.
God can do as He chooses, but that does not mean what you suggest happened.Cannot God open up the portals of time and allow me to look
through it and see that none of you are going to be on the new earth
long before the day of the great judgement it takes place...in time?
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Post #7I can easily prove you do not know the God who created heaven and earthtam wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:11 pm May you all have peace,
Why do you 'take it' that I had high expectations of being on the new earth?jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:00 pmI take it you had high expectations of being on the new earth.tam wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 4:34 pm May you all have peace,
[Replying to jimtatertayte in post #1]
The lie is in the OP:
If God saves you, it will be for the lake of fire.
None of you are going to be on the new earth.
This includes all you reading this thread.
Not only does the OP have no idea who may or may not ever read this thread, none of what has been said is in line with the truth that Christ (the Truth) taught. He did not teach us to go around condemning others, especially if they have no hope of ever turning around, repenting, and being saved - He taught us not to judge (lest we be judged) and He taught us to forgive (and we will be forgiven).
As for the Judgment (wherein some will be resurrected to life and some will be resurrected to judgment and the second death), that has not yet occurred. So no one can say who will be cast into the lake of fire.
Also, if no one reading the thread can ever be on the new earth, and anyone reading the thread who is saved, is saved only for the lake of fire, what is the point in making the statement in the OP to begin with?
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You did not reveal any truth about me to me.Aren't you glad I revealed the truth about you to you?
If I need truth about me revealed to me, then my Lord Jaheshua will reveal it to me.
God can do as He chooses, but that does not mean what you suggest happened.Cannot God open up the portals of time and allow me to look
through it and see that none of you are going to be on the new earth
long before the day of the great judgement it takes place...in time?
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and that you do not
have any knowledge of the new earth other than what you read in a book that some one wrote in it.
We could do this as a test...
I would ask you a question and you would ask the God
who created heaven and earth to give you the answer...
Then you in turn could do the same to me.
We would find out that the God who created heaven and earth
will not reply to you and that He never has
conversed with you in all your life.
I on the other hand converse with Him at all times, day and night.
So what do you say do you want to take a leap into the REAL truth?
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Post #8Peace again to you,
[Replying to jimtatertayte in post #7]
I do not need to test my Lord (Jaheshua) or my God (the Father of Christ). And a leap into the REAL TRUTH, would be a leap into Christ (Jaheshua), who is the Truth (and Word of God). So I'm just gonna to stick with Him.
I will, however, continue to 'test the inspired expressions' as my Lord has taught me; hold all things up against the Light (Christ) and the Truth (also Christ). This is what I have done with the couple posts of yours that I have commented on.
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[Replying to jimtatertayte in post #7]
I do not need to test my Lord (Jaheshua) or my God (the Father of Christ). And a leap into the REAL TRUTH, would be a leap into Christ (Jaheshua), who is the Truth (and Word of God). So I'm just gonna to stick with Him.
I will, however, continue to 'test the inspired expressions' as my Lord has taught me; hold all things up against the Light (Christ) and the Truth (also Christ). This is what I have done with the couple posts of yours that I have commented on.
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Post #9Did your lord or Lord tell you to say this to metam wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 5:46 pm Peace again to you,
[Replying to jimtatertayte in post #7]
I do not need to test my Lord (Jaheshua) or my God (the Father of Christ). And a leap into the REAL TRUTH, would be a leap into Christ (Jaheshua), who is the Truth (and Word of God). So I'm just gonna to stick with Him.
I will, however, continue to 'test the inspired expressions' as my Lord has taught me; hold all things up against the Light (Christ) and the Truth (also Christ). This is what I have done with the couple posts of yours that I have commented on.
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or did you make it up and say it on your own to me?
