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Calvinism Settled

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For the purpose of this discussion, the commonly accepted historic representative of modern Reformed Theology will be John Calvin.

Jesus in Matt. 7:16 clearly specifies His Followers are to be identified by their personal fruits, later put to text by Paul in 1 Corinthians 13. As well, John specified in 1 John 4:20 that for a Believer to not love a Brother in Christ was to clearly show that Believer was a liar, and loved not God.

John Calvin was a material witness upon the heresy trial against Stephen Servitus by the Godless Roman Catholic organization. Rather than forgive and show love to Servitus, Calvin contributed to and approved his murder. Calvin acted in concert with the Roman Catholic's presumptive governence over the souls of men. Calvin acted just as did Paul who was accessory to the Stoning of Deacon Stephen by the first century Jews.

John Calvin with his so called doctrines of predestined Salvation thereby demonstrated those doctrines produce ghastly error without Godly fruit. No supposed explanation or excuse for Calvin's willful participation in the horrific and needless killing of Stephen Servitus will provide validation of his Reformism. Calvin was by the example of Christ giving His mercy unto the heretical Samaritans obligated to do the same for Servitus. Jesus did not condemn unbelievers to immediate execution, but rather left ultimate judgement to The Father.

This judgemental posture and unloving conduct characterizes all writings and pursuits of both Puritan and modern Reformists. For example, American Puritan immigrants slaughtered Native Americans, calling them Godless savages deserving such. Today, the endless and strident writings of Reformists continue to deny the character, salvation through Christ, and mercy of God to those created in His image. All this takes place because, as did the Pharisees, they worship the Text of Scripture, "Thinking in them they have life." They call such worship of the Text "exegesis."

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Re: Calvinism Settled

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PinSeeker wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 2:26 pm
Benson wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 5:53 pm I appreciate how you have revealed your error. To replace "who calls" with "will call" is to clearly demonstrate how "We" all can see you are trying to change the Text of God's Word in Scripture.
Yes, God is the One who calls, and all whom He will call will be saved. You have just made a difference without distinction. Nobody's changing anything, Benson.
Benson wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 5:53 pm Academia once again has succeeded in its pursuit to corrupt Spiritual Light by directing it's adherents to falsely exegete.
<eyeroll>
Benson wrote: Mon Feb 01, 2021 5:53 pm Answer not to me, but to God.
Yes, I don't intend to answer to you, Benson. Grace and peace to you, though.
Yes, and you thereby deny Christ's command to "give an answer to every man." Your rebellion well done by your own admission. Have a nice appearance before The Lord.

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Benson wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:40 pm
You will be accountable to God for your persistent lie. And you have not the character to repent of this lie. He is waiting for you. Judgement will occur.
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Re: Calvinism Settled

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Tcg wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 4:16 pm
Benson wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 3:40 pm
You will be accountable to God for your persistent lie. And you have not the character to repent of this lie. He is waiting for you. Judgement will occur.
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Are we not all accountable for lying? How is this uncivil?

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Re: Calvinism Settled

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PinSeeker wrote: Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:14 am
Benson wrote: Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:53 pm Today, the endless and strident writings of Reformists continue to deny the character, salvation through Christ, and mercy of God to those created in His image.
Quite the opposite is true. Is this what you want to debate? Reformed Christians and Calvinists are... well, really, primarily concerned with proclaiming God's sovereignty and mercy and salvation through Christ, and our having been created in His image -- just how amazing His love and mercy and grace are, really. Is this what you want to debate?

Grace and peace to you.
Proclamations are not Christ's Commission.

Legalism and law proclaim, fruits of the Spirit and witness of His life through Jesus are the Testimony of God. The Law brings sin and death, Christ brings hope for the hopeless. No living person is ever denied the hope of Salvation. The World is the Lord's for His Redemption of those He created in His image to be sentient of the Eternal until their last breath.

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Re: Calvinism Settled

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Benson wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:03 pm
Legalism and law proclaim, fruits of the Spirit and witness of His life through Jesus are the Testimony of God. The Law brings sin and death, Christ brings hope for the hopeless. No living person is ever denied the hope of Salvation. The World is the Lord's for His Redemption of those He created in His image to be sentient of the Eternal until their last breath.
This is not addressing what PinSeeker said at all, really. What you have written here basically amounts to preaching. I sincerely believe you could benefit from familiarizing yourself with the various forum rules and guidelines, because it clearly states that one must "abide by the guidelines on preaching." Those guidelines include an admonishment against using the forum as a platform for dispensing religious messages. There are also admonishments against pronouncing that God should judge a person, and against claiming that you alone know the truth and everyone else is in error, and so forth—all of which are things you have been doing. It's bad form. If you want to debate, that's awesome; we're all here for that kind of thing. If you just want to pontificate to the benighted and misguided masses, well... that is unlikely to be tolerated.

Again, as PinSeeker said, there is ample evidence that Calvinists are very concerned about the character of God and his mercy, and salvation through Christ for those created in God's image. Plenty of specific examples could be cited; personally, I would very quickly point to the extraordinary ministry of the late R. C. Sproul as a prime example. This is what you need to address, and directly. This is a debate forum, so let's do away with the preaching and pontificating. Your claim was refuted with a real-world example. Address that.

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Re: Calvinism Settled

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John Bauer wrote: Wed Feb 03, 2021 3:41 am
Benson wrote: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:03 pm
Legalism and law proclaim, fruits of the Spirit and witness of His life through Jesus are the Testimony of God. The Law brings sin and death, Christ brings hope for the hopeless. No living person is ever denied the hope of Salvation. The World is the Lord's for His Redemption of those He created in His image to be sentient of the Eternal until their last breath.
This is not addressing what PinSeeker said at all, really. What you have written here basically amounts to preaching. I sincerely believe you could benefit from familiarizing yourself with the various forum rules and guidelines, because it clearly states that one must "abide by the guidelines on preaching." Those guidelines include an admonishment against using the forum as a platform for dispensing religious messages. There are also admonishments against pronouncing that God should judge a person, and against claiming that you alone know the truth and everyone else is in error, and so forth—all of which are things you have been doing. It's bad form. If you want to debate, that's awesome; we're all here for that kind of thing. If you just want to pontificate to the benighted and misguided masses, well... that is unlikely to be tolerated.

Again, as PinSeeker said, there is ample evidence that Calvinists are very concerned about the character of God and his mercy, and salvation through Christ for those created in God's image. Plenty of specific examples could be cited; personally, I would very quickly point to the extraordinary ministry of the late R. C. Sproul as a prime example. This is what you need to address, and directly. This is a debate forum, so let's do away with the preaching and pontificating. Your claim was refuted with a real-world example. Address that.

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I address what Christ said and did. Do you? Yes? No?
Saying "again" is merely quoting one's self. Please, focus upon The Savior, not on men.

Proclamations are not possible without works. Theologians are not capable of works within their pursuits. The concerns of Calvinists are confined to their mere words.

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