Do Souls Prexist?

[Benson]

One or some of the following must exist regarding the human soul:

1.) It comes into existence at the moment of meiotic inception in the womb, or in a laboratory container.

2.) It comes from another dimension or place to be inserted into the newly formed human zygote, or possibly at the first breath when birth occurs.

3.) It is a small spark of God Himself which He puts into humans when they arrive at a sentient state of accountability.

4.) Human souls exist only in humans which are chosen by God according to the integrity of their DNA.

5.) God ordains some humans shall be possessed by a prexistent nonhuman evil spirit.

Perhaps this Forum has those who claim to have knowledge of God's Omnipotence, Providence, and Love and will thereby confidently pontificate. Or, perhaps someone will arise with patronizing verbation to hide their lack of thought and information. The best answer will assuredly be germane and to the point without being dismissive or divergent.

A clue to an answer is that God "breathed into Adam" before Adam became a living soul, something not done with animals. Jesus also purposefully "breathed" upon His Disciples. As well, Mosaic Law specifies unborn children are persons to be protected. Strangely, Pagan worship sought and prioritized the sacrifice of infants, as if the infancy contained a certain aspect of being they utilized.

[Benson]

They believe this is the case for all humans beings - that once an individual dies, that is the end of the individuals experience.

That is exactly correct; at least until a resurrection (see above). Note the following scriotures :

ECCLESIATES 9:10

Whatever your hand finds to do, do with all your might, for there is no work nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom in the Grave, where you are going.

GENESIS 3:19

In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.”

The two Scriptures above do not state the dead will remain both unconscious and as dust. Resurrection of both the just and unjust will occur.

Do you argue with this?

[myth-one.com]

Pity so much talk and speculation by human endeavor misses the essential reality of human soul.

Seperation from God through sin causes not annihilation of human existence, but eternal fire upon it in Hades. If the soul needed salvation through Christ to become eternal, then it could not be apart from such salvation eternal in Hades.

Humans will be annihilated very quickly in the fire.

No one can be separated from God if God is omnipresent.

[myth-one.com]

If the god also therefore breathed life into all the animals and insects and everything else which is alive, then this breath behaves differently depending upon the form in which the breath was breathed into.

Breath doesn't behave.

[William]

If the god also therefore breathed life into all the animals and insects and everything else which is alive, then this breath behaves differently depending upon the form in which the breath was breathed into.

Breath doesn't behave.

What does breathe do then?

[myth-one.com]

If the god also therefore breathed life into all the animals and insects and everything else which is alive, then this breath behaves differently depending upon the form in which the breath was breathed into.

Breath doesn't behave.

What does breathe do then?

It supports physical life.

[Benson]

Pity so much talk and speculation by human endeavor misses the essential reality of human soul.

Seperation from God through sin causes not annihilation of human existence, but eternal fire upon it in Hades. If the soul needed salvation through Christ to become eternal, then it could not be apart from such salvation eternal in Hades.

Humans will be annihilated very quickly in the fire.

No one can be separated from God if God is omnipresent.

Do you agree there is no Scripture which states humans will be annihilated by the fire? Yes? No? No answer?

Do not waste our time with imagination and speculation. Thanks in advance.

[William]

If the god also therefore breathed life into all the animals and insects and everything else which is alive, then this breath behaves differently depending upon the form in which the breath was breathed into.

Breath doesn't behave.

What does breathe do then?

It supports physical life.

And what of that? Since the breathe is that of a god/creator, then connection is implied. Since the connection is implied, the breath is the life (not the support of the life but that which animates the form to become living.)

In this, the connection allows for the life experienced to create data of experience. The data of experience allows this particular god to judge the experience and the experience amounts to what the personality has become. What the personality has become is the data which the god judges the personality by. Without the data being saved through the connection, there is nothing to view or to determine how the data is then judged.

The breath of the god "supports physical life" is not what the biblical account tells us. Rather it states that the breath of the god IS the life...in the case of human beings and all other breathing critters, without that breath, nothing of forms is able to live.

[myth-one.com]

Pity so much talk and speculation by human endeavor misses the essential reality of human soul.

Seperation from God through sin causes not annihilation of human existence, but eternal fire upon it in Hades. If the soul needed salvation through Christ to become eternal, then it could not be apart from such salvation eternal in Hades.

Humans will be annihilated very quickly in the fire.

No one can be separated from God if God is omnipresent.

Do you agree there is no Scripture which states humans will be annihilated by the fire? Yes? No? No answer?

Do not waste our time with imagination and speculation. Thanks in advance.

I'll agree that the word "annihilated" is not used.

The effect is the same.

The wages of sin is the second death, and those cast into the lake of fire suffer their second death, and that is the end of them for ever.

[Benson]

Spiritual death is seperation from God. Adam and Eve spiritually died "the day" they sinned, but we're not annihilated.

Shall we pray about this and for your compliance to Scripture?

[William]

Pity so much talk and speculation by human endeavor misses the essential reality of human soul.

Seperation from God through sin causes not annihilation of human existence, but eternal fire upon it in Hades. If the soul needed salvation through Christ to become eternal, then it could not be apart from such salvation eternal in Hades.

Humans will be annihilated very quickly in the fire.

No one can be separated from God if God is omnipresent.

Do you agree there is no Scripture which states humans will be annihilated by the fire? Yes? No? No answer?

Do not waste our time with imagination and speculation. Thanks in advance.

I'll agree that the word "annihilated" is not used.

The effect is the same.

The wages of sin is the second death, and those cast into the lake of fire suffer their second death, and that is the end of them for ever.

The illogical in this particular mythology is that the god bothers re-creating individual bodies and then somehow [this proces remains unexplained by those who believe in it] is able to place the personality of the individual back into its re-created/resurrected body only to then throw the body with the personality within it, into a fire which then totally destroys both body and personality.

That is not only uneconomic, but makes no sense when one could simply not recreate the body and place the personality back into it, thereby avoiding so much work for the god.
Indeed, it even provides an image of a god who is more than just a little Narcissistic , which tells me that this particular idea of a god is obviously made in the image of humans who are themselves Narcissistic. Deceitful human beings telling the world lies about the nature of The Creator...while claiming every other idea of afterlife which contradicts or otherwise disagrees with this belief, is 'of the devil'.

Cunning...until one sees through the deceit.