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The Truth. The Whole Truth. Nothing But the Truth

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The Trinity of The Truth.
The Truth as succinctly defined: "The quality or state of being true."

The Truth expanded definition:
Truth is the property of being in accord with fact or reality.[1] In everyday language, truth is typically ascribed to things that aim to represent reality or otherwise correspond to it, such as beliefs, propositions, and declarative sentences.[2]
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Truth is usually held to be the opposite of falsehood. The concept of truth is discussed and debated in various contexts, including philosophy, art, theology, and science. Most human activities depend upon the concept, where its nature as a concept is assumed rather than being a subject of discussion;
As a concept, the idea of their being "The Whole Truth" actually existing - and contained by human theology in the bodies of their preferred gods - the body of The Christian god [idea] is that this is the place in which The Whole Truth is Contained.

Just as the physical Universe can be observed as a whole one could say the existence of the Universe is The Whole Truth (what else which can be seen, exists apart from it?)

In both cases, as far as our understanding of 'The Truth" goes, no truth is without its missing bits. No truth is whole. We know bits about the Universe and bits about the Christian god [the Christians call "God" to differentiate] .

In that, while we know truth about the Universe [because we see it exists] we don't know the Whole Truth about the Universe, and that is where the idea we are within a Simulated Universe comes to the fore, because we don't know that we are not.

In that, the idea that a creator must have created us and placed us within the simulator [obviously a Realty Simulator] enter "God" stage left...which started out as "enter gods" before humans began to realize that one creator should be sufficient to the argument.

Christians claim that their god, God, created this Reality and placed us within it. Christians claim that their god, God, sent his son Jesus into our reality to declare that he was "The Truth".

The Truth?

The Whole Truth?

And Nothing but The Truth?

What actual evidence do Christians give to The World which The World can see plainly that they are right about Jesus, and their god, God?

None. They say that The Truth has to be accepted on faith, because it is dealing with another Universe which this Universe reality experience was created through. [the one begat the other]

I think that this is a reasonable argument, but in saying so, admit that in the case of that, we are not presented with The Whole Truth, so cannot call it by that name, which is to say, we cannot just accept in faith that the god Christians call God, is The Whole Truth, given the evidence supporting that idea is too small to make the loftier heights as position of The Whole Truth.

As presented by Christianity:

Jesus may be The Truth.

Jesus may also be Only The Truth.

But Jesus cannot be The Whole Truth.

Can my argument here, be considered Truth?

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Overcomer wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:06 pmIt is possible to know something partly and still know it correctly and truly. The Whole Truth will always be the Whole Truth whether people believe it or not.
True, if Jesus revealed the Father, what he revealed could not logically be exhaustive but it could be complete in the sense everything we need to have a relationship with Him. Truth just needs to be accurate it doesnt need to be exhaustive.



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Overcomer wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:06 pm But Jesus did give the whole truth. Basically, he said, "Accept my gift of salvation and live. Don't accept my gift of salvation and die. Your choice."
That is only a claim. As noted, belief in something as being "The Whole Truth" does not amount to that something actually being the whole truth
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JehovahsWitness wrote: Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:26 pm
Overcomer wrote: Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:06 pmIt is possible to know something partly and still know it correctly and truly. The Whole Truth will always be the Whole Truth whether people believe it or not.
True, if Jesus revealed the Father, what he revealed could not logically be exhaustive but it could be complete in the sense everything we need to have a relationship with Him. Truth just needs to be accurate it doesnt need to be exhaustive.
Indeed, and since we also know that this particular idea of The Truth tells us that Jesus had 1 type of the truth for the public and another - far more detailed type he kept for those he instructed privately, Christians have not been made privy to that which he taught privately.

Perhaps there are Christians on this board who do have access to that vaster teaching - might like to produce it as part of their evidence to support their claim that Jesus is The Truth.

In the mean time, there is an irony of sorts as to Christians claiming their particular brand of Christianity is "The Truth" or even claiming that the small amount of information amounts to 'the truth as far as they are concerned" when anything outside of that truth which is not mentioned in their Bible is over and above what they will accept, and generally consider 'of the devil' rather than what it really is - "vaster truth [Sometimes referred to as "More exhaustive"] to which they do not have, nor even want to be privy to."

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