Universal Balance and Harmony.
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Replying to tam in post #152]
I see you misunderstanding is that you have yet to appreciate the underlying premise. [UP]
Underlying Premise [UP]
"The Creator is the only reality"
Therefore;
IF
the UP is Truth...
THEN
The creation is subsequently not real. [illusion - perspective has to reflect that truth...]
That's a bit "IF", William,
Are you claiming that The Creator is
not the only reality Tammy?
and I have absolutely no reason to accept it.
So what? What reason do you have to reject it?
Nor does your OP mention it.
It is still connected to the OP, but as you should be aware, I have mentioned this in my correspondence with you.
Nor does Christ teach it.
What makes you think Christ does not teach this? Perhaps you mean, Christ has not taught
you this?
"Messing with people"? How does teaching Spirits the truth of their illusions equate to 'messing' with them?
I think you know that I mean the illusions (the deceit) is what messes with people.
Illusions are not necessarily for the purpose of 'deceit' Tammy. I think you know this.
IF the Spirits are under illusion and Christ wants them to come into all truth, isn't it the point that the Spirits who are ignorant of all truth, makes the
ignorance the device in which the illusion is created?
The only deceit which can be identified, must have to do with something
other than ignorance on the Spirits part.
Sure. IF the Spirit is told any truth and prefers to not believe it, THEN deceit has entered into the situation and the illusion remains - not as it first did - from ignorance - but now, from deceit.
[in this case - self deceit. since the Spirit prefers to think of itself as the human flesh device even when told that it is not]
In your analogy, you said that the audience is aware that the illusion is not real.
Sure. In your case I would say that if you are not aware the show is magic and believe it is real - then the analogy would be along the lines that the person sitting next to you [me] is telling you that what you are witnessing is not real, and explaining how the trick is performed, but you are saying "no! It
is real!"
Just because someone does not tell the whole truth does not imply that they are lying Tammy. It may simply be because the whole truth is beyond their listeners ability to comprehend, so bytes of truth are acceptable. The Creator does not give us more than we are able to handle at any one time. We digest the byte, and in doing so are being prepared for the next byte.
The problem here is that if the new 'byte' contradicts the original 'byte', the original 'byte' was always a lie.
Nope. The lie [if indeed there was one] was to convince the individual the truth [real] is that they are
only the flesh
However the individual got that information, the individual
believed it and therefore believes the show is real when it is not actually real.
No one told Adam it was real. Adam decided for himself to see himself the way that he did. Adam told himself that he was 'naked'. [Genesis 3~11]
The things you claim are in contradiction to Christ.
If that is a claim Tammy, there is no support accompanying it. You simply saying I am "contradicting Christ" does not mean that is the actual case.
You don't even know if the things you are claiming are true. You said this to me yourself.
I also said I do not know if they are false either. I said that the information available points to it being the case that these things are true.
Search "Astral Travel" "OOBE's" "NDE's" for extra-biblical information on this.
By definition an illusion is a deception.
No. This is because, by definition, Illusion is not deception.
But IF you want to play the definition game, THEN I accept that deception is therefore not always a 'bad' thing.
You seem to use the word in that manner.
Here is a simply optical deception then;
Is the above deception- in your opinion - "evil" [bad]?