The Atonement

[Revelations won]

To all true Christians there is nothing more important to our salvation than "The Atonement of Jesus Christ".

Having said that, is it not therefore extremely important to every individual to understand fully what and how the atonement works for our benefit?

What does the atonement do or does not do?

What is required on our part to receive the full benefits of the atonement?

What and when and by whom did the atonement begin?

Can anyone clearly show all scriptures pertaining to the atonement?

I look forward to hearing your "take" on this most important topic.

Kind regards,
RW

[Brightfame52]

He accomplished Reconciliation !

Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

He accomplished Reconciliation , that is, His Death ALONE has reconciled to God ALL for whom He died, that is precisely what the verse tells us. This reconciliation is Two Fold, it is objective, by which all the elect of God, of all time, by Christ's Death ALONE, have been reconciled to God, not that they were made reconcilable, but actually reconciled, a finished transaction, a done deal !

Can a person be reconciled to God by the Death of His Son and be a Unbeliever and at enmity with God by Nature ? Yes, of course. Paul in Rom 5:10 is stating to Believers, that WHEN or WHILE we were Enemies of God, even THEN, we had been Reconciled to God by the Death of His Son. You see when a sinner who Christ died for , and His Death had satisfied God's Law and Justice on their behalf, those sinners, who are born dead in trespasses and sins Eph 2:5, who are born as OTHERS , by Nature Children of Wrath Eph 2:3, Who are born by nature Ungodly in their manner of life Rom 5:6 , All such differ from from all others who are born in the same condition, these have already objectively been reconciled to God by the Death of His Son, and to all of them is the PROMISE GIVEN, that they shall be SAVED [ Subjective Reconciliation or Conversion which includes being given both Faith and Repentance] BY HIS LIFE !

To deny this subjective reconciliation to any for whom Christ died, is a denial of the Gospel, the Word of Reconciliation; And since it is obvious from other portions of scripture that everyone in the world without exception shall not be saved by His Life, then reason would tell us that the World in 2 Cor 5:19 is limited to only those that actually Saved by His Life Rom 5:10. So the conclusion is this, If anyone in that world of 2 Cor 5:19 is not saved by Christ's Life as promised in Rom 5:10b, then the scripture has been proven to be false, and Paul and the other Apostles are found to be False Witnesses ! However, I am absolutely SURE that the Scripture is True and that the Christ I witness of did actually accomplish and effected reconciliation to God for all whom He died, and not one shall be Lost.

[myth-one.com]

To deny this subjective reconciliation to any for whom Christ died, is a denial of the Gospel, . . .

I think it's just that you do not understand the Gospel -- not that you are denying it.

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Jesus was born as a human man into a Jewish family.

As a man, He had no choice but to die once:

And it is appointed unto men once to die, . . .

So Jesus' death on the cross was appointed to Him as a consequence of His being born as a man.

Jesus' death, following His sinless human life, made Him the only human to ever qualify as an heir to everlasting life under the Old Testament Covenant between God and the Children of Israel.

That allowed a New Covenant to be created where the inheritance under that new covenant is the inheritance Jesus earned under the Old Testament Covenant! Jesus then gives His rightful inheritance away to those who accept it under the New Testament Covenant:

For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish, but have everlasting life.

The everlasting life that believers will inherit is the one which Jesus' inherited under the Old Testament Covenant! He gifts it to believers.

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ ...

The only stipulation is that heirs under the New Testament Covenant must believe in Jesus as their Savior.

That is how the "fault" in the Old Testament was reconciled so that other humans could qualify for everlasting spiritual life.

Now you know (again).

[Brightfame52]

It put away the sins of those He died for !

The Lord Jesus Christ, the God Man, accomplished this also for those He died for, He took away their sins for it is written 1Jn 3:5

5 And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.

Jn 1:29

29The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world.

Dan 9:24

24Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.

They shall be no more Jer says Jer 50:20

In those days, and in that time, saith the LORD, the iniquity of Israel shall be sought for, and there shall be none; and the sins of Judah, and they shall not be found: for I will pardon them whom I reserve. Which is the Election of Grace !

Now this Taking away of Sin is also called propitiation. The sins, iniquities, transgressions of all for whom Christ died for have been taken out the way, having been nailed to His Cross, He in their behalf has satisfied all of God's law and Justice, for all their sins, past, present, and future, so that their sins are gone , that is propitiation 1 Jn 2:2

2And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.

1 Jn 4:10

10Herein is love, not that we loved God, but that he loved us, and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins.

by this, those God Loved, He took away their sins, that is the punishment they should have suffered for them !

So here is the question ! Did Christ by His Death actually put away sin [propitiate] of all those He died for, or did He only make it possible for them to be put away ? Those who follow False Teaching and a False Gospel teach that Christ's Death only possibly, contingently put away all the sins of all those Christ died for, for they teach many that Christ died for, shall still die in their sins because they did not perform a condition, and so the sins of theirs that had been taken away and forgiven by the blood of Christ were given back to them, so that God can satisfy again His Law and Justice, but this time on them, God forgetting about He punished them once already in Christ. Now of course we know this is false teaching because it makes God Unjust to Christ, who He already Punished and it makes Him Mutable and subject to change, which is a false concept of the True God, for He tells His Chosen Remnant Mal 3:6

For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Its a done deal, regardless of the antichrist ministers, all those whom Christ died for, He put away their sins forever.

[Brightfame52]

mythone.com

I think it's just that you do not understand the Gospel -- not that you are denying it.

Apparently you dont understand reconciliation by the death of Christ and what it effects, subjective reconciliation to God, all a accomplishment of Christs atoning death.

[myth-one.com]

mythone.com

I think it's just that you do not understand the Gospel -- not that you are denying it.

Apparently you dont understand reconciliation by the death of Christ and what it effects, subjective reconciliation to God, all a accomplishment of Christs atoning death.

Two "deaths" are defined in the Bible, the first and the second.

The second death is the death which is the wages for our sins:

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Believers are not subjected to this second death:

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

So Jesus' appointed death did not pay the wages of our sins -- which is the second death. Jesus was not cast into the lake of fire and suffer His second death!

His death was His first appointed death, which no human can avoid:

And it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

So Jesus' death on the cross did not directly save anyone.

[Brightfame52]

mythone.com

I think it's just that you do not understand the Gospel -- not that you are denying it.

Apparently you dont understand reconciliation by the death of Christ and what it effects, subjective reconciliation to God, all a accomplishment of Christs atoning death.

Two "deaths" are defined in the Bible, the first and the second.

The second death is the death which is the wages for our sins:

But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Believers are not subjected to this second death:

He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.

So Jesus' appointed death did not pay the wages of our sins -- which is the second death. Jesus was not cast into the lake of fire and suffer His second death!

His death was His first appointed death, which no human can avoid:

And it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

So Jesus' death on the cross did not directly save anyone.

See you dont understand reconciliation by Christs death. Sinners Christ died for were by His death reconciled to God while being enemies. And those same ones are assured to be saved by His Life Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

And if you dont believe a reconciled to God person is saved, you surely no nothing of Salvation and the Death of Christ.

[myth-one.com]

See you dont understand reconciliation by Christs death. Sinners Christ died for were by His death reconciled to God while being enemies. And those same ones are assured to be saved by His Life Rom 5:10

10 For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.

And if you dont believe a reconciled to God person is saved, you surely no nothing of Salvation and the Death of Christ.

Being a human, Christ had no choice but to die His appointed death:

And it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

So how could His dying save anyone? It's appointed! He had no choice in the matter.

You have to go farther that His simply dying His appointed death, for Him to become our Saviour!!

What type of life did He live?

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And if you dont believe a reconciled to God person is saved, you surely no nothing of Salvation and the Death of Christ.

No one has as yet been saved. Believers are presently heirs unto salvation:

The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ ... (Romans 8:16-17)

Jesus will bring our reward upon His return:

Behold, thy salvation cometh; behold, his reward is with him... (Isaiah 62:11)

And behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me... (Revelation 22:12)

[Brightfame52]

By it, He Justified Many !

Isa 53:11

11He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.

The ESV Out of the anguish of his soul he shall see and be satisfied; by his knowledge shall the righteous one, my servant, make many to be accounted righteous, and he shall bear their iniquities.

Now did Christ by His Death alone, Justify Many ? As you can see that some translations render it " accounted righteous"

This means that by His Death, many shall be accounted Righteous, or Justified. Paul preached the very same thing in Rom 5:19b

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

The word for righteous in Rom 5:19 is a greek word meaning Just, which is short for Justification or Justified When scripture says that a man is Just as Joseph Matt 1:19, it means he was Justified before God by the obedience of Christ, even though in time He had yet to die. When scripture states that that Cornelius was a Just Man Acts 10:22, it means He was Justified before God, also by the Obedience of the One Christ. Paul preached that believers had been Justified by His Blood Rom 5:9

9 Much more then, being now justified by his blood or His Obedience unto Death, we shall be saved from wrath through him.

However, the unfaithful preachers teaches that Justification before and with God was made only a possibility for all men without exception and that man , not Christ's Blood alone, is what causes Justification before God to become a factual reality, mans freewill they say accomplished that ! Now many of the opposer's of the Truth like to hi jack Rom 5:1 as proof that man must contribute his faith to Christ's Work, in order to be Justified before God, for Christ's Blood alone did not quite do it to hear them say it; However they are culpable of wresting scripture to their own destruction, but what Rom 5:1 means by being Justified by or out of Faith, is that God Given Faith, the Fruit of Regeneration or New Birth, reveals to one their Justified status before God, that Justification that was declared by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the Dead Rom 4:25, this their Justification and Righteousness was established out of the Faithfulness or Obedience of Christ Rom 5:19b

19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.

unfaithful preachers deny this Truth of the Justification before God of all for whom Christ died !6

[myth-one.com]

By it, He Justified Many !

This means that by His Death, many shall be accounted Righteous, or Justified.

How does that work?

[Brightfame52]

By it, He Justified Many !

This means that by His Death, many shall be accounted Righteous, or Justified.

How does that work?

Read the post in its entirety. Also if you have been reading my previous posts you should already know the answer to that question.