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JW's claim of Kingdom of God establish in 1914?

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What was the date of this claim of the Kingdom of God restored in 1914?

What did God do to set up the Kingdom of Heaven?

Is there any record of what he said to accomplish this great event?

Did the JW's originally claim that Christ would come on the date they claimed?

Let us hear your clear answers to the above questions.

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Yes de do.



What was the date of this claim of the Kingdom of God restored in 1914?
  • October 1876

What did God do to set up the Kingdom of Heaven?
  • He gave authority to Jesus to start ruling to his son.


Is there any record of what he said to accomplish this great event?
  • Yes. (Psalm 110:1, 2 )


Did the JW's originally claim that Christ would come on the date they claimed?
  • "Come" (as in "parousia") in 1914 ? Yes.



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I dont get the post.

Nothing happened in 1914. Is the purpose of this post to admit it was a false prophecy? Or to give an excuse why it didn't happen and try justifying the false claim?

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Avoice wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 6:06 am I dont get the post.

Nothing happened in 1914. Is the purpose of this post to admit it was a false prophecy? Or to give an excuse why it didn't happen and try justifying the false claim?
Jehovahs Witnesses believe Jesus became King in 1914. The point of the post was to answer the questions asked.

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Dear JW,

Thank you for your responses.


What was the date of this claim of the Kingdom of God restored in 1914?
October 1876

My response: Thank you. By the way who was the prophet of God who received this revelation and prophecy in 1876?

What did God do to set up the Kingdom of Heaven?
He gave authority to Jesus to start ruling to his son.

My response:

Judging by your response it appears that from the time of his death in A.D. 33 he had no power given from God the Father and therefore had no power until A.D. 1914. So, did he just prop up his feet and eat chocolates from A.D. 33 till 1914?



Is there any record on 1914 of what he said to accomplish this great event?
Yes. (Psalm 110:1, 2 )


Did the JW's originally claim that Christ would come on the date they claimed?
"Come" (as in "parousia") in 1914 ? Yes.


Definition of parousia
in Christian theology
: the time when Jesus Christ will return to judge humanity at the end of the world : SECOND COMING
Christians around A.D. 64 anxiously awaited the parousia, Jesus Christ's imminent Second Coming.

Parousia
the coming of Christ on Judgement Day. Also called Second Advent, Second Coming.

My response: So who did Christ come to in 1914 and on what precise date?

Who were the witnesses of this event?

What did Christ say to the witnesses at this critical juncture?

Do the JW’s have a published record of all that transpired on the specific date in 1914?

As I examine the 1876 prophecy is is clear that Christ was to return in the year. Did he forget this important year?

You now claim that in 1914 “He gave authority to Jesus to start ruling to his son.” So….. did Jesus have no authority until some time in 1914?


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Revelations won wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:27 am
My response: Thank you. By the way who was the prophet of God who received this revelation and prophecy in 1876?
The revelation and prophecy wasnt received in 1876, it was understood in 1876.
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Revelations won wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:27 am
Judging by your response it appears that from the time of his death in A.D. 33 he had no power given from God the Father and therefore had no power until A.D. 1914. So, did he just prop up his feet and eat chocolates from A.D. 33 till 1914?
He did have power, he just didnt have power to rule in the (Messianic) kingdom.




How could Jesus be appointed king in 1914 if he was given "all authority" in 33 CE?
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Revelations won wrote: Sun Feb 27, 2022 9:27 am
Did the JW's originally claim that Christ would come on the date they claimed?

  • "Come" (as in "parousia") in 1914 ? Yes.
So who did Christ come to in 1914 ...?
  • He didnt come to anybody, he began ruling.
.... on what precise date?
  • I dont know.
Who were the witnesses of this event?
  • I presume all the faithful angels.
What did Christ say to the witnesses at this critical juncture?
  • I don't know..."Thank you for coming"?
Do the JW’s have a published record of all that transpired on the specific date in 1914?
  • We dont have a date; we keep records of our own theocratic activities from that year. Humans are not privy to events in heaven unless revealed by divine revelation.
As I examine the 1876 prophecy is is clear that Christ was to return in the year. Did he forget this important year?
  • I cannot answer this question as I have no idea what you are talking about
You now claim that in 1914 “He gave authority to Jesus to start ruling to his son.” So….. did Jesus have no authority until some time in 1914?
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[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #4]

He became king in 1914? What was he before that?
What did he become the king of?
How did the world change once he became king?

I'm more interested on what he was before 1914? And what he did for mankind after 1914?

I await your response. Seriously, I need your knowledge on this so I know how to answer people should I accept this. I have to be able to explain this. Thanks

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[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #8]

You better check the facts. Are you sure it's 1914?
Or is it really 1861? The evidence is overwhelming!
It wasn't understood to happen in 1914. They understood it to be 1861. More became spiritual in 1861 than in 1914. You have to go with evidence. The evidence is this:.
In 1826 it was understood that 1861 would come to pass. . And in 1861 it came to pass. That's the truth.

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