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How to become an angel!

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Two type of bodies are defined in the Bible, natural and spiritual (I Corinthians 15:44). Man is a natural bodied being and God and the angels are spiritual bodied beings (John 3:6). All men will die (Hebrews 9:27), and all spiritual bodied beings will live forever. (Luke 20:36).

The two testaments of the Bible are covenants or wills between God and mankind. The inheritance which heirs receive under either covenant is everlasting life. Each Bible testament describes the path to everlasting life for mankind under that particular covenant.

The path to eternal life under the first covenant was to never sin (Romans 6:23). However, there was a fault in the first testament in that all mankind sinned! (Romans 5:12) Since the first covenant contained a fault, God created a second or New Testament (Hebrews 3:6).

Under the New Testament Covenant, one must believe in Jesus as their Savior to gain everlasting life (John 3:16). Here is how that came to be:

The Word (a Spirit) was made flesh as the man Jesus Christ (John 1:14). Being a man (1Timothy 2:5), Jesus was included as a possible beneficiary under the original covenant between God and mankind.

In fact, Jesus became the only human to become an heir to immortality under the Old Testament Covenant! (1 Timothy 6:16).

His future inheritance belongs solely to Him, it is His possession, He owns it! And He is the only human that "hath immortality" as an inheritance.

But Jesus freely chooses to offer His inheritance as a gift to humans who believe in Him as their Savior. This is codified in the New Testament Covenant! (John 3:16)

But how can the one everlasting life which is Jesus' inheritance be distributed to more that one believer? Here's how that is justified in the scriptures:

Since many sinned due to one man (Adam), it is only fair that likewise many should be saved by the gift of everlasting life offered freely by the one man, Jesus Christ. (Romans 5:15)

Once the Word was made flesh as Jesus, Jesus had no choice but to die His first death – as it is appointed unto man once to die. So Jesus’ death, while required, is not what saves us.

What saves us is that Jesus offers His just inheritance of everlasting spiritual life received by His living a sinless life under the Old Testament Covenant to those humans who accept Him as their Savior from the wages of their sins under the New Testament Covenant.

Believers receive their inheritance of everlasting life by being born again of the Spirit (John 3:6) at the second Coming (Romans 5:15).

Conclusion: Whosoever believeth shall be born again of the Spirit, as a spirit, into the spiritual Kingdom of God, at the Second Coming. When this occurs, we will become equal unto the angels.

That is how any human may become an angel. :D

If you want to debate the above explanation, please do so with scripture references to support your claims.

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myth-one.com wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:46 pm
Man is a natural bodied being, with a maximum life span of 120 years if he or she dies of natural causes.
Uh, no.

The oldest person ever whose age has been independently verified is Jeanne Calment (1875–1997) of France, who lived to the age of 122 years and 164 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... 054%20days.

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Tcg wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:07 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:46 pm
Man is a natural bodied being, with a maximum life span of 120 years if he or she dies of natural causes.
Uh, no.

The oldest person ever whose age has been independently verified is Jeanne Calment (1875–1997) of France, who lived to the age of 122 years and 164 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... 054%20days.
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Being French, that would be her age in metric years. O:)

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myth-one.com wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:34 pm
Tcg wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:07 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:46 pm
Man is a natural bodied being, with a maximum life span of 120 years if he or she dies of natural causes.
Uh, no.

The oldest person ever whose age has been independently verified is Jeanne Calment (1875–1997) of France, who lived to the age of 122 years and 164 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... 054%20days.
Tcg
Being French, that would be her age in metric years. O:)
Either in metric or standard her age reveals that you claim is flawed.


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Tcg wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:38 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:34 pm
Tcg wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:07 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:46 pm
Man is a natural bodied being, with a maximum life span of 120 years if he or she dies of natural causes.
Uh, no.

The oldest person ever whose age has been independently verified is Jeanne Calment (1875–1997) of France, who lived to the age of 122 years and 164 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... 054%20days.
Tcg
Being French, that would be her age in metric years. O:)
Either in metric or standard her age reveals that you claim is flawed.


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Yes, I knew about her.

She is one in an estimated 117 billion.

Powerful argument.

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myth-one.com wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:56 pm
Tcg wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:38 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:34 pm
Tcg wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:07 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:46 pm
Man is a natural bodied being, with a maximum life span of 120 years if he or she dies of natural causes.
Uh, no.

The oldest person ever whose age has been independently verified is Jeanne Calment (1875–1997) of France, who lived to the age of 122 years and 164 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... 054%20days.
Tcg
Being French, that would be her age in metric years. O:)
Either in metric or standard her age reveals that you claim is flawed.


Tcg
Yes, I knew about her.

She is one in an estimated 117 billion.

Powerful argument.
It only takes one to prove a universal claim wrong.


Tcg
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- American Atheists


Not believing isn't the same as believing not.

- wiploc


I must assume that knowing is better than not knowing, venturing than not venturing; and that magic and illusion, however rich, however alluring, ultimately weaken the human spirit.

- Irvin D. Yalom

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Tcg wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:00 am
myth-one.com wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:56 pm
Tcg wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:38 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:34 pm
Tcg wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:07 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:46 pm
Man is a natural bodied being, with a maximum life span of 120 years if he or she dies of natural causes.
Uh, no.

The oldest person ever whose age has been independently verified is Jeanne Calment (1875–1997) of France, who lived to the age of 122 years and 164 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... 054%20days.
Tcg
Being French, that would be her age in metric years. O:)
Either in metric or standard her age reveals that you claim is flawed.


Tcg
Yes, I knew about her.

She is one in an estimated 117 billion.

Powerful argument.
It only takes one to prove a universal claim wrong.

Tcg
That's true.

Is Jeanne the one?

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myth-one.com wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:50 am
Tcg wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:00 am
myth-one.com wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:56 pm
Tcg wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:38 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:34 pm
Tcg wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:07 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:46 pm
Man is a natural bodied being, with a maximum life span of 120 years if he or she dies of natural causes.
Uh, no.

The oldest person ever whose age has been independently verified is Jeanne Calment (1875–1997) of France, who lived to the age of 122 years and 164 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... 054%20days.
Tcg
Being French, that would be her age in metric years. O:)
Either in metric or standard her age reveals that you claim is flawed.


Tcg
Yes, I knew about her.

She is one in an estimated 117 billion.

Powerful argument.
It only takes one to prove a universal claim wrong.

Tcg
That's true.

Is Jeanne the one?
Of course. Unless one considers 122 years less than 120 years.


Tcg
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- American Atheists


Not believing isn't the same as believing not.

- wiploc


I must assume that knowing is better than not knowing, venturing than not venturing; and that magic and illusion, however rich, however alluring, ultimately weaken the human spirit.

- Irvin D. Yalom

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Tcg wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:58 am
myth-one.com wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 9:50 am
Tcg wrote: Sun Mar 27, 2022 12:00 am
myth-one.com wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:56 pm
Tcg wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:38 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:34 pm
Tcg wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:07 pm
myth-one.com wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:46 pm
Man is a natural bodied being, with a maximum life span of 120 years if he or she dies of natural causes.
Uh, no.

The oldest person ever whose age has been independently verified is Jeanne Calment (1875–1997) of France, who lived to the age of 122 years and 164 days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_t ... 054%20days.
Tcg
Being French, that would be her age in metric years. O:)
Either in metric or standard her age reveals that you claim is flawed.


Tcg
Yes, I knew about her.

She is one in an estimated 117 billion.

Powerful argument.
It only takes one to prove a universal claim wrong.

Tcg
That's true.

Is Jeanne the one?
Of course. Unless one considers 122 years less than 120 years.


Tcg
Jeanne living more than 120 years is not universally accepted.

Some believe she died at the age of 99 in 1934.

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myth-one.com wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:46 pm
2timothy316 wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 11:39 am
myth-one.com wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 12:04 am
Here's a wild idea, why don't we use what the Bible suggests.

That is, there are two type of bodies -- natural and spiritual.
No one is disputing that. Yet just because that is a fact doesn't mean that flesh/a man can't live forever on earth as the Bible says is going to happen. That's my wild idea, lets use MORE of what the Bible says.
Scientists have concluded that human beings can currently live to a maximum of about one hundred and twenty years of age.
Do scientists make the rules or God?
"So all the days of Adam’s life amounted to 930 years." Gen 5:5

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myth-one.com wrote: Sat Mar 26, 2022 10:46 pm
Ecclesiastes 3:19-20 wrote:For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again.
Can we agree on that fact also?
I can agree. Can you agree with these?
"As for the heavens, they belong to Jehovah, But the earth he has given to the sons of men." - Ps 115:16
"“The righteous themselves will possess the earth, and they will reside forever upon it.” - Ps 37:29
All of these scriptures are true just as they say. Yet death is not permanent for the righteous. "There is going to be a resurrection." - Acts 24:15

Speaking about 'dust'
"“Your dead will live. My corpses will rise up. Awake and shout joyfully, You residents in the dust! For your dew is as the dew of the morning, And the earth will let those powerless in death come to life." - Is 26:19
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