There are probably as many flavors of "trinitarians" as there are denominations. I dont think most are being evasive, its just how do you answer questions on a "mystery? I personally tend to focus on specifics such as being equal in rank, power, knowledge and age. In any case, in my opinion, they are not a united body so nobody cares if beliefs are contradictory.
The question of Jesus being both the Father and the Son when examined closely , is I think, only possible via neither being an individual person. Traditionally most trinitarians I have spoken to, acknowledge three
persons, so believing they are one PERSON is a particularly difficult position to hold. I doubt if you'll get anyone that holds such a belief to explain it anyway, but you're welcome to try.
JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 10:10 am
If we
define person as an intelligent individual with their own autonomous will (desires) capable of making independent moral decisions.
MissKate13 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:49 pm
I’ve already posted my view.
End of that particular attempt : as no definition of "person was provided and no acknowledgment that God is a person, the somewhat nebulous belief Jesus and Jehovah are the same can be held. Of course if you ask "what are Jesus and Jehovah"? You will end up with the above.
If they are PERSONS they are two distinct individuals, if they are two distinct individuals they each have their own identity (and if the biblical pattern is to be respected NAME). The best apporach then would be to not go into such specifics.
Not for nothing it is called a mystery: Spin and repeat ad infinitum.
JW