Separating Facts and Feelings with Language .

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Separating Facts and Feelings with Language .

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I have spent a lot of time discussing theology in Christian forums.

The central critical issue in theology is final authority.

Catholics believe their church is the final authority.

Baptist believe scripture is the final authority,

so final canonization becomes the issue.


I want to start by saying I sincerity appreciate this forum site !

I'd like to make a couple critical statement.


Everyone, even Christians, have the exact same issues with the God of the Holy Bible.

Dr. Peter Ruckman, Ph.D. is the most prolific author of bible apologetics/polemics of all time.

I have spent 30 years reading his books, watching his videos

and personally conferenced with him over the years.

Even Dr. Ruckman openly stated that he does not like the presentation of eternal damnation in the Holy Bible.

I spent time with Dr. Paul Kurtz, the co-author of the humanists manifesto II,

he also does not like the presentation of eternal damnation in the Holy Bible.


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Makahiya2028 wrote: [Replying to post 10 by Divine Insight]

I'm sure, this topic is the most terrifying topic in human thought .
You're kidding? Right? "
'Separating Facts and Feelings with Language' is terrifying? How? Why?
I don't see how this topic is even interesting, let alone mildly worrisome to anyone, whether theist or non theist.

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Makahiya2028 wrote: [Replying to post 10 by Divine Insight]

I'm sure, this topic is the most terrifying topic in human thought .
What topic is that? :-k

It seems quite unclear what you are even trying to say or discuss. Your posts seem quite incoherent for the most part.

What exactly is it that you believe is terrifying?

And why do you find it terrifying?

Can you answer these questions in a clear and concise way?
:-k

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Re: Separating Facts and Feelings with Language .

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Makahiya2028 wrote:

The concept of hell is the most terrifying thought ever

and the single biggest issue in philosophy and theology, including with Christians.
Since, you present your questions with an implied, "Do you agree?" instead of a question mark, could you clarify this one a bit? Are you talking about Dante's Inferno, Gehinnom, or something else?

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Makahiya2028 wrote: The concept of hell is the most terrifying thought ever

and the single biggest issue in philosophy and theology, including with Christians.
Why should the concept of hell be terrifying for anyone who believes in a just and righteous God? :-k

Unless of course a person believes that they righteously deserve to be case into hell.

The only thing that would truly be terrifying is if there existed a God who casts people into a hell for petty reasons that are not justified. You say that this is a big problem for theology. But why should it be? If they believe that the God is just in everything he does, then the concept of hell shouldn't bother them in the least. It would only be a problem if they feared that this God might not truly be just and might end up casting innocent people into a state of eternal hell. But that wouldn't be a righteous trusting God. On the contrary that would be an extremely unrighteous demon.

So are you suggesting that theologians are worried that their God might actually be a demon? :-k

That seems like a very strange worry for a theologian to be concerned with.

Although I can see why Christians might be concerned about this considering that Jesus proclaimed that the path to heaven is straight and the gate is narrow and only few will make it. He also suggested that the unrighteous would go the way of eternal punishment. So Jesus sounds like an unjust God who would cast people into hell for extremely petty reasons. So I suppose I can understand why this might cause Christians to be terrified. Jesus also said that many people will call him "LORD", but he will say that he does not know them. That too could be terrifying for a Christian I suppose. ;)

If you believe in a God that you can't trust I can see where that could be terrifying.
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