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Why are Jews persecuted?

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I'm not anti-sematic. I only know one Jewish couple and like them a lot.
Both are friendly, open, kind, successful, intelligent.
I know quite a bit about the Nazi revolution of WWII and Jews were a very convenient scape goat for Hilter.
But Jews have been persecuted all over the world from ancient times to present.
I don't understand the "why" for that.
Reading the O.T. informs the reader that the God's chosen people seem to have a long history of straying from God and being punished by God.
A sub question for the reader is; where do the Jews come from?
From Abraham? Did Abraham set out to start the Jewish religion?
I doubt that.
Where, as in what tribe, group, did Abraham hail from?
Can Abraham be trace back to the survivors of the Great Flood?
Today the nation of Israel is populated by only about 6.4 million Jews.
They are surrounded by 322 million islamics that would be only too happy to kill every Jew on the planet.
That's a horrific thought.
I understand the argument over establishing the Jewish state, the argument over ownership of the desert armpit of the world, but the desire of islam to destroy the Jew isn't rooted in land ownership, it's deeply religious in motive.
So why are Jews so persecuted?

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Certainly. Prosperity is not a privilege. It's a responsibility. By giving them prosperity in the land of Israel, God empowered the Jews to be the model nation he wanted them to be.

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"They gave physical form to the wrath of God
In the early days, God refined humanity by war. He used physical, violent means to refine his creation. The Jewish people were often his instrument in doing this. The Jews brutally attacked many peoples to secure their lands [3]. Sometimes they did not leave survivors. Other times, against orders, they spared a few (I think this happened with King Saul). Those survivors would have probably had a grudge, for the loss of all their friends and family, and everything they ever knew."

Rephasing the first line: Jews gave physical form to the wrath of God.

Wow. It was all God's will afterall and Jews only did his bidding?
And survivors held a grudge because their loved ones were killed by
people obedient to God?
Rather ungrateful I'd say.
Palestinians defenitely do not understand this.
Neither did poor Russians in the Gulags.

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Not for nothing, but it is a very lucky people who haven't been persecuted for 1000's of years.
Nazi's always come up as having killed 4 million Jews, however, Nazi's defined Jews as anyone with Jewish grandparents as a political way to eliminate sympathizers...

and Stalin wiped out, by the same rationale, 4 million Jews as well, and 36 million of the rest of us. The difference is, Stalin won.

When you consider all the successful genocides, being persecuted and extant - is quite a blessing for everyone of us.

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Why are Jews trully persecuted ?

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I think that if the Jews would give up their religious teXts - That would put them in favor with everyone around them.

The laws of the Lands around the world are so very different from the Jewish Hebrew Old Covenant teXts.

Even in Islamic Lands - Quranic / Islamic Law of Marriage and Divorce is a normal way of Life in the TEACHINGS OF ISLAM and The QURAN. Not Just a Society --- BUT a RELIGIOUS NORM.

The Islamic Community Worldwide is a Total Anti Family Religion. Woman and Children are Passed around from Man to Man Like Property.

In Afghanistan, more than half of all girls are married before they turn 15, usually to settle disputes. Woman are used, Literally to Barter , Trade , and Pay of Debts.

A Unicef study from 2000 to 2008 found that more than 43 per cent of women in Afghanistan were married under age, some before puberty.

In 2009 Human Rights Watch and Unifem, a UN agency, classified 57 per cent of all brides, as under age, which is below 16.

The Millions of Refugees in Islam are Caused by the total widespread abandonment of Children, The Youth and the Breakdown of the Family.

70,000 children in Indonesia may have fallen victim to sexual exploitation.

IN ISLAM - IN THE QURAN AND ISLAMIC TEACHINGS. Divorce, Adultery and using woman as seX Slaves is normal. The Religions Teachings. ALLAH does not mind if a Woman leaves her Children to be MOVED to another Man. She is not required by Allah to stay.

The Entire Muslim world is a total world of Abandoned Children.

The Refugees have no one back home who will take them in, because their Mothers and Fathers have moved on to another seX partner and have allowed a business transaction of seXual TRADE - to take care of their 6 - 8 year old Baby Daughter.

The Mother does not Care. Because The Quran Glorifies this as - A Sacred Honor and Holiness.

In The Old and New Testament - Divorce is Against Gods Wishes and Request.

Also when Muslims and Jews communicate about their problems - The Jew can place his faith in the Historical Facts that are In The Bible. But - The Muslim has absolutely no Scriptures For His or Her faith. No History, Nothing. So there is a Problem on all sides for Jews.

I believe one of the main problems for people - With Jews is that the Jews always - are a reminder that there is a God. Most Jews reject the trinity, Reject the idea of the Catholic ideology of God and that alone Has cost them to be slaughtered by the millions throughout history.

Rejecting the Catholislamic god has hit them hard. Catholics and Muslims have spent the last 1000 2000 years diverting everyone they can to aim their complaints and aggressions against the Jews.

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Also - we can remember that The Jews very temple was destroyed and Both Catholics and Muslims have fought many battles over the property.

Neither Catholics or Muslims wish to make it their Capital City. But they have maintained resistance against the Idea of the Jews having it.

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Falling Light 101 wrote: I think that if the Jews would give up their religious teXts - That would put them in favor with everyone around them.

The laws of the Lands around the world are so very different from the Jewish Hebrew Old Covenant teXts.

The Islamic Community Worldwide is a Total Anti Family Religion. Woman and Children are Passed around from Man to Man Like Property.

The Millions of Refugees in Islam are Caused by the total widespread abandonment of Children, The Youth and the Breakdown of the Family.



IN ISLAM - IN THE QURAN AND ISLAMIC TEACHINGS. Divorce, Adultery and using woman as seX Slaves is normal. The Religions Teachings. ALLAH does not mind if a Woman leaves her Children to be MOVED to another Man. She is not required by Allah to stay.

The Entire Muslim world is a total world of Abandoned Children.

The Refugees have no one back home who will take them in, because their Mothers and Fathers have moved on to another seX partner and have allowed a business transaction of seXual TRADE - to take care of their 6 - 8 year old Baby Daughter.

The Mother does not Care. Because The Quran Glorifies this as - A Sacred Honor and Holiness.

In The Old and New Testament - Divorce is Against Gods Wishes and Request.

Also when Muslims and Jews communicate about their problems - The Jew can place his faith in the Historical Facts that are In The Bible. But - The Muslim has absolutely no Scriptures For His or Her faith. No History, Nothing. So there is a Problem on all sides for Jews.

I believe one of the main problems for people - With Jews is that the Jews always - are a reminder that there is a God. Most Jews reject the trinity, Reject the idea of the Catholic ideology of God and that alone Has cost them to be slaughtered by the millions throughout history.

Rejecting the Catholislamic god has hit them hard. Catholics and Muslims have spent the last 1000 2000 years diverting everyone they can to aim their complaints and aggressions against the Jews.
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Don't You see that The jews religious teXts have been the sole source of all of their problems with being persecuted, rejected and despised by the Catholislamic and ProtestAnti religions.

- If They Converted - That would put them in favor with everyone around them. Catholics and Muslims - They Love and adore a Converted Jew..

And it really seems that The Protestants will take Him as one of their own, if the Jew Vows to always honor the traditions of the Ancient Sodom and Gomorrah, with Parades, Festivals, Costumes and Parties every now and then. And put on a show, as if the return of the ancient ones of Sodom and Gomorrah.

Like The Sodomites are returning back home - to re claim their lost plot of dirt and in this fantasy, the protestants go insane with approval and delight.

We know that - The laws of the Lands all around the world, are so very, very different from the Jewish Hebrew Old Covenant teXts.

The Islamic Community Worldwide is a Marriage situation that Both Jesus and Moses condemned and forbade. The never ending allowance of Divorce, sex trafficking and sex TradeMarketing ( TM ) of Islamic Prepubescent women is well documented. IN THE QURAN AND ISLAMIC TEACHINGS. And in Basic General Knowledge of World and Daily News of general Events and Facts/.

And if the husband divorces his wife AGAIN (for the third time), she shall not remain his lawful wife after this (absolute) divorce, unless she GOES and marries another husband and the neXt husband divorces her.

(In that case) there is no harm if they [the first couple] remarry . . . . (Sayyid Abul A’La Maududi, The Meaning of the Qur’an, vol. 1, p. 165)

So if A Muslim Family get a divorce - They Separate for a few weeks - But then RECONSILE all the differences in time. And the Muslims wife wishes to return back to her Children.

The Muslim women Can not go back to rejoin their Family and Children from the First Husband until she has seX with another man in another Marriage/.

once the divorce has been set.

She has to have another marriage and possibly more children with another man who she hopes - will someday divorce her Just so that she may return back to her original family. And Abandon her new Children.

But She created another Family just for the purpose of Islamic Law that mandates that she have another sexual partner / Husband - before she may return to the first husband. OR a PREVIOUS HUSBAND / FAMILY.


The fact is -- Sura 2:230, Demands that - The couple who is divorced finally and absolutely are not permitted to remarry each other after they worked out their differences—

unless the wife marries another man, and then he divorces her.

There are Muslim women who spend their lives - in seXual slavery - after the thrills of Opium, Heroin , Meth and drugs has faded. Their realization that they have created many deformed and genetically problematic children who have severe mental instability and insecurities.

Islamic and Catholic Children are genetically Addicted to Opium and Heroin and street drugs throughout the Muslim and Catholic World. It is in their Genes.

REMEMBER - In The Old and New Testament - Divorce is Against Gods Wishes and Request.

But The Problem is the FACT that Muslims do not believe the Bible.

The Muslim and Catholic have absolutely no Scriptures For His or Her faith.

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Freedom For Muslims

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Once Muslims get to America. They ( Most of Them ) They fall in love with Freedom. And leave their old world of hell and horrible pain behind them.

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Who hasn't and isn't persecuted?
Anytime anyone is different they get persecuted.

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