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Christ did not see the New Testament and did not establish any church
But he came to complete the Old Testament


TestamentChurches violate the commandments of Christ in their teachings, and the images, crosses, and idols that are inside Churches


many Jews and Christians misinterpret the teachings in Bible and continue to lead the sheep to slaughter. However if interpreted correctly and properly understood, in current Bible God does forbid drunkenness, immortality, usury, gambling, eating pork, worshiping man, and forbids considering Jesus as God which would break first and second Commandments, Quran confirms this.


The doctrine of Christ was a pure monotheism, and then it began to infiltrate into it from various beliefs - especially the pagan beliefs in the Roman world - which dyed it with the Trinity, so the common traditional Christianity became the Christianity of the Trinity.


But there is still today an important and powerful sect among the famous Christian denominations; It is the sect of "the Unitarians", and it has become a phenomenon today in the United States, and the saying of the Christian Unitarians is summed up in: "There is no god but allah - Christ is the Messenger of God


God sent the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, with the Qur’an to correct previous books such as the Old and New Testaments


Christ is just a prophet

everyone that was alive when Jesus walked considered him a Prophet.


And the crowds were saying, “This is the prophet Jesus, from Nazareth in Galilee.” (Matthew 21:11)

The woman *said to Him, “Sir, I perceive that You are a prophet.(John 4:19)

When they sought to seize Him, they feared the people, because they considered Him to be a prophet. (Matthew 21:46)

So they *said to the blind man again, “What do you say about Him, since He opened your eyes?” And he said, “He is a prophet.” (John 9:17)
(interesting footnote, even those he gave vision to considered him a prophet)

And He said to them, “What things?” And they said to Him, “The things about Jesus the Nazarene, who was a prophet mighty in deed and word in the sight of God and all the people, (Luke 24:19)


العالم الكبير شمسي يكشف ويفضح مؤامره ونفاق المدلسين


هل بشارة سفر التثنية 18-18 عن يسوع أم محمد صلى الله عليه وسلم؟



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John 10 verse 30:

" John 10:30 is often quoted to show that Jesus is equal to God. But when you read the verse in its context you will find that the passage taken as a whole proves the opposite. People are often content to quote the verse in isolation to show that Jesus said I and the Father are one


‘Okay, you say actual unity… let us read further’. If you go ahead in the Gospel of John, Ch. No.17, Verse No.21, it says that, Jesus Christ (peace be upon him) said that… ‘Ye all of them are one – My father in me, and I in thee, we all are one’.


Does it mean that God Almighty, is in Jesus Christ… and Jesus Christ is in all his 12 disciples. So there will be 14 gods – Jesus Christ, God Almighty, and 12 disciples. The same ‘one’ is used there, and here. If you go to the source, the same word is used
– If you go to the Greek… the same word is used –


So does it mean you have 14 gods? And among those disiples, Judas was a traitor -. Even he is God? Thomas doubted Jesus Christ (peace be upon him ) – is he God? – ‘Peter’ – Jesus Christ says … ‘is satanic?’-


Is he also God? No, – all of them, God Almighty – Jesus Christ and the Apostles, are one in purpose – they are same. Again if you go 2 verses ahead – Gospel of John, Ch. 17, Verse 23, says that, ‘I am in thee, and you are in me’… he tells the disciples.
Does it make all them God? No! It means one in purpose


I and My Father are one'

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John 17:20-22

«. This means that Christ is compatible with the Father, but it does not mean that He is one with the Father in essence,

as Christ said in John 17:11 about his disciples, addressing the Father: “11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of[a] your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one..”


Explain this bible verse ' I and My Father are one' Dr Zakir Naik #HUDATV





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Thomas' saying to Christ "My Lord" does not imply the divinity of Christ


“My Lord ” does not mean divinity, because my Lord means “Teacher” and “My God” was said about others, including Moses, judges, and even Satan.


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Jews

� and then the Jews picked up stones to stone him because they understood him to mean that he is claiming to be God. It is only when you read the passage to see what comes before and after this verse that you will realise that the Jews misunderstood what Jesus was saying. In fact, Jesus tried to explain what he meant, and the explanation he gave is still in the Bible for everyone to see. It is surprising that so many people who say they love Jesus ignore his explanation and repeat the mistake which was made by the enemies of Jesus� When Jesus said, �I and the Father are one� (chapter 10, verse 30) the Jews picked up stones to stone him (verse 31).


Jesus could not understand their behaviour, because he had said nothing wrong. So he asked them what he had done wrong to make them want to stone him (verse 32). They replied that Jesus had committed blasphemy since he was only a man yet he claimed to be God (verse 33). But it is clear from the Bible passage above that Jesus did not claim to be God. He only claimed to be the Christ (verse 25). When did he say he was God? They were deliberately misquoting Jesus and putting words in his mouth which they will try to use later as false evidence against him so they could have an excuse to kill him.

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John 1:14

14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth John 1:14

We have to note - first of all - that these words mentioned in the beginning of the Gospel of John are not from the words of “Christ” but rather the words of “John.” Christ did not say such words at all.

These are the words of a Jew named Philon
(20 BC - 40 AD) lived in the Hellenistic era in Alexandria, a philosopher and thinker who was influenced by Greek philosophy


Then if the Word is God and the Word became flesh, then this means God becoming flesh, and this is a change in God, and their book says that God does not change [Malachi 3:6]




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This is the testimony of Peter, when he said to the Jews:

[22 “Fellow Israelites, listen to this: Jesus of Nazareth was a man accredited by God to you by miracles, wonders and signs, which God did among you through him, as you yourselves know. ]. Acts of the Apostles 2-22

Are Christians today more knowledgeable than Peter, the disciple of Christ, who saw him, lived with him, lived with him, and knew him well!



Christ Himself said to the Jews: In the same Gospel: [40 But now you seek to kill Me, a Man who has told you the truth which I heard from God.]. John 8-40.


And this text alone is sufficient for any sane person who seeks the truth to undermine in his mind the idea of the alleged divinity of Christ. Christ himself says to the Jews: I am just a person who conveyed to you the words of God. A word from which it is impossible to understand except one meaning,

as in John 17-3 when he was addressing the Father, saying: [ 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. ].


Whoever wants to obtain eternal life in the time of Christ must know and believe that the true God is God, and know and believe that this true God sent Jesus Christ as a prophet only.

You claim Jesus is God. You cannot produce a single claim and clarification by Jesus himself where he said: " I am God" you cannot.
The Bible has a problem. It cannot make up its mind whether Jesus is God or not. Christians happily point to verses where Jesus supposedly says "I and the Father are one", but then when someone points out that Jesus also said "I am going to your God and my God", they dismiss it as irrelevant and say things like "well Jesus is both man and God and also his son". For Muslims, this is the ultimate heresy. It shows that the Bible is the work of multiple hands. Jesus was not the liar. The people who tried to speak in his name and created a new ideology were the liars.


John 8:58 "Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am!"

Jesus say in the bible ' before Abraham was I am ' Dr Zakir Naik #HUDATV



Q&A Jesus Before Abraham Was, I Am John 8 58 Sheikh Ahmed Deedat low


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