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Why does Islam embrace child rape?

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"Muhammad was married to thirteen women, including eleven at one time. He relegated them to either consecutive days or (according to some accounts) all in one night. He married a 9-year-old girl and even his adopted son's wife. On top of that, Muhammad had a multitude of slave girls and concubines with whom he had sex - sometimes on the very days in which they had watched their husbands and fathers die at the hands of his army."

So, by any realistic measure, the creator of the world's most sexually restrictive religion was also one of the most sexually indulgent characters in history.

From the Hadith:

Muslim (8:3309) - Muhammad consummated his marriage to Aisha when she was only nine. (See also Bukhari 58:234 and many other places). No where in the reliable Hadith or Sira is there any other age given.

Bukhari (62:18) - Aisha's father, Abu Bakr, wasn't on board at first, but Muhammad explained how the rules of their religion made it possible. This is similar to the way that present-day cult leaders manipulate their followers into similar concessions.

Muslim (8:3311) - The girl took her dolls with her to Muhammad's house (something to play with when the "prophet" was not having sex with her).

Bukhari (6:298) - Muhammad would take a bath with the little girl and fondle her.

Muslim (8:3460) - "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you could sport with her and she sport with you, or you could amuse with her and she could amuse with you?" Muhammad posed this question to one of his followers who had married an "older woman" instead of opting to fondle a child.

Bukhari (4:232) - Muhammad's wives would wash semen stains out of his clothes, which were still wet from the spot-cleaning even when he went to the mosque for prayers. Between copulation and prayer, it's a wonder he found the time to slay pagans.

Bukhari (6:300) - Muhammad's wives had to be available for the prophet's fondling even when they were having their menstrual period.

Bukhari (93:639) - The Prophet of Islam would recite the 'Holy Qur'an' with his head in Aisha's lap, when she was menstruating.

Bukhari (62:6) - "The Prophet used to go round (have sexual relations with) all his wives in one night, and he had nine wives." Muhammad also said that it was impossible to treat all wives equally - and it isn't hard to guess why.

Bukhari (5:268) - "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, 'Had the Prophet the strength for it?' Anas replied, 'We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty men.' "

Bukhari (60:311) - "I feel that your Lord hastens in fulfilling your wishes and desires." These words were spoken by Aisha within the context of her husband having been given 'Allah's permission' to fulfill his sexual desires with a large number of women in whatever order he chooses. (It has been suggested that Aisha may have been speaking somewhat wryly).

Muslim (8:3424) - One of several narrations in which a leering Muhammad orders a clearly startled woman to suckle a grown man with her breast so that he will become "unlawful" to her - meaning that they can live under the same roof together.

Tabari IX:137 - "Allah granted Rayhana of the Qurayza to Muhammad as booty." Muhammad considered the women that he captured and enslaved to be God's gift to him.

Tabari VIII:117 - "Dihyah had asked the Messenger for Safiyah when the Prophet chose her for himself... the Apostle traded for Safiyah by giving Dihyah her two cousins. The women of Khaybar were distributed among the Muslims." He sometimes pulled rank to reserve the most beautiful captured women for himself.

On the other hand, Muhammad passed down revelations from Allah that clearly condoned sleeping with underage girls, even by the standard of puberty. Qur'an (65:4) relates rules for divorce, one of them being that a waiting period of three months is established to determine that the woman is not pregnant. But the same rule applies to "those too who have not had their courses," meaning girls who have not begun to menstruate.

Thanks to Muhammad's extremely poor judgment (at best) and explicit approval of pedophilia, sex with children became deeply ingrained in the Islamic tradition. For many centuries, Muslim armies would purge Christian and Hindu peasant villages of their menfolk and send the women and children to harems and the thriving child sex slave markets deep in the Islamic world.

When it comes to child marriage, contemporary clerics warn fellow Muslims against succumbing to the disapproval of the Christian West: "It behooves those who call for setting a minimum age for marriage to fear Allah and not contradict his Sharia, or try to legislate things Allah did not permit. For laws are Allah’s province; and legislation is his excusive right, to be shared by none other. And among these are the rules governing marriage.�

The Ayatollah Khomeini, who married a 12-year-old girl, even gave his consent to using infants for sexual pleasure (although warning against full penetration until the baby is a few years older).

Some clerics show relative mercy on underage girls by advocating a process known as "thighing" (also known as child molestation in the West). According to a recent fatwa (number 23672), an imam answers this question: "My parents married me to a young girl who hasn't yet reached puberty. How can I enjoy her sexually?" by telling the 'man' that he may "hug her, kiss her, and ejaculate between her legs."

A prominent member of Saudi Arabia's highest religious council said in 2012 that girls can be married "even if they are in the cradle," then went on to explain that intercourse may occur whenever "they are capable of being placed beneath and bearing the weight of the man."

stop the bacha bazi tradition, you know the hiring and raping of little boys...or the marrying of 9 yo girls, raping them the night of the wedding and then when the child dies from bleeding, not even holding the man accountable, the mutilation of girls genitals so that she doesnt feel pleasure, the stoning of women accused of adultery, the honor killing of daughters who had the audacity to allow themselves to be raped...etc etc you know, all those great islam traditions.

by the way it is 2013, time to join the rest of the civilized world in living within socially acceptable standards like not raping children, etc...

So my question is, why does Islam support child rape?

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Re: Why does Islam embrace child rape?

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[Replying to post 10 by Al-Fatihah]

I have never hear of the word "consummate" used in the context of marriage to mean anything than to make the marriage complete by having sexual intercourse.

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help3434 wrote:
I have never hear of the word "consummate" used in the context of marriage to mean anything than to make the marriage complete by having sexual intercourse.
Response: This may be true. However, the word consummate is an English word. Not Arabic. So even if one argued it means sex, that does not go against Islam. The actual Arabic does not mean sex and the word consummate has been used other times in hadith to not refer to sex.

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So my question is, why does Islam support child rape?
My question is why does the West still tolerate Islam? Why haven't we banned the religion from our country?

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[Replying to post 3 by jeager106]

i really like to know, what books and things you have learned about islam, that you come to that conclusion.

just skeptic..... can you name any books, did you read Quran by translation in english?

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Islam does NOT embrace child rape? How did you come up with such a idea?

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Back in the time of Prophet Muhammad (SAW), and earlier; girls were allowed to get married, once they had reached puberty; In Prophet Muhammad's case: he married Aisha when she was 6 years old, but didn't consummate the marriage until she reached puberty, at the age of 9 years.

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Child Marriage in Islam

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There are multiple Sahih Hadith that explain that Aisha was Pre-pubescent at her marriage. That she played dolls with her friends and with her husband is well documented. That she came from her swing to the marriage bed is also documented.
Also Surah 65:4 gives the Iddah or waiting period after the divorce of the child who has not yet menstruated. It is 3 months to ensure that she is not pregnant. This is confirmed by the Tasfirs and the scholars as the meaning of Surah 65:4

If a wife has not been touched then there is no Iddah or waiting period. She may remarry straight away.

As there is no lower age limit for marriage in Islam or Sharia - then there is also no lower limit for sexual intercourse. It is said that so long as the girl can bear the weight of the man, and it is agreed by the Father and the Husband. But in any case she MUST submit by the age of 9 irrespective of the start of puberty. It is the age that matters and that is because of Aisha.

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letschat wrote: There are multiple Sahih Hadith that explain that Aisha was Pre-pubescent at her marriage. That she played dolls with her friends and with her husband is well documented. That she came from her swing to the marriage bed is also documented.
Also Surah 65:4 gives the Iddah or waiting period after the divorce of the child who has not yet menstruated. It is 3 months to ensure that she is not pregnant. This is confirmed by the Tasfirs and the scholars as the meaning of Surah 65:4

If a wife has not been touched then there is no Iddah or waiting period. She may remarry straight away.

As there is no lower age limit for marriage in Islam or Sharia - then there is also no lower limit for sexual intercourse. It is said that so long as the girl can bear the weight of the man, and it is agreed by the Father and the Husband. But in any case she MUST submit by the age of 9 irrespective of the start of puberty. It is the age that matters and that is because of Aisha.

No; If you study the Authentic Hadith in SAHIH BUKHARI and SAHIH MUSLIM, for example, and also study the HOLY QUR'AN TAFSIR by the renowned Scholar IBN KATHIR, you will find that Aisha (RA), had reached Puberty by the age of Nine years, and so that's why Prophet Muhammad (SAW) consummated the marriage when she was 9 years old.

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