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Did Jesus and or John the Baptist believe in Trinity?

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Did Jesus and or John the Baptist believe in Trinity? Please
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Wootah wrote: [Replying to paarsurrey1]

How do you identify which parts were added later? What is your method?
Some of them I give below:
1. Jesus was a Jew, he followed the teachings given by Moses so anything in the NT Bible that is against the teachings of Moses, is not from Jesus.
2. Jesus metioned things in the usage of Torah of Moses, so anything Jesus said is to be interpreted from the usage of Moses’ Torah.
3. YHVH’s on attribute is All-Wise, so anything against the normal or against the reason/wisdom or the common sense is not from YHVH whom Jesus believed and addressed as God-the-Father.
4. The most ancient Bibles reportedly didn’t have them but the later versions show them. The textual anaylasis of the Bible done by the scholars point them out.

And there are other points which I mentioned in the thread “What is the correct way to interpret the Bible?�, forum Theology, Doctrine, and Dogma . Right, please?

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paarsurrey1 wrote:

Jesus was a Jew, he followed the teachings given by Moses so anything in the NT Bible that is against the teachings of Moses, is not from Jesus.
There would be no point in Jesus appearing if he had nothing new to deliver. You will recall:

John 13:34King James Version (KJV) " A new commandment I give unto you..."
Jesus wasn't a servant of Moses but, as we understand it, an emissary of God.
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YHVH’s on attribute is All-Wise, so anything against the normal or against the reason/wisdom or the common sense is not from YHVH whom Jesus believed and addressed as God-the-Father.
This is flawed reasoning, paarsurrey. Our wisdom is folly in the domain of God; if Jesus tells us to forgive seventy times seven (Matthew 18:21) we might see this as silly, but not so in God's terms. Who are we to judge what is wise with God?


You know, of course, we can do the same with the Quran. We can find bits that are bad and should be ignored.

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