Sex Before Marriage is NOT a sin in the bible!!

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Sex Before Marriage is NOT a sin in the bible!!

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I study the bible and found that premarital sex is not a sin in the bible. This sin is created by Church doctrine. The early church twisted the word fornication to mean sex before marriage. The word fornication actually means having sex with a pagan temple prostitute. The early church fathers redefine the word fornication to mean all sex outside of marriage. This is how the doctrine that premarital sex is a sin started.

Why Should Christians Engage in Premarital Sex / Sex Before Marriage!!!

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What does fornication mean in the Bible; Latin Greek and Hebrew or

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nobspeople wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:31 pm
Miles wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:26 pm
nobspeople wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:30 am
Miles wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:55 am
brunumb wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:16 pm
EarthScienceguy wrote: Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:28 pm [Replying to brunumb in post #44]
ETA: I wonder how many so-called good Christians miss those good old days when they could drag the fornicators out into the street and chuck rocks at them.
I bet a whole lot of children wish that premarital sex was still at 8% because the divorce rate increased along with the percentage of those engaging in premarital sex.

https://vancouversun.com/news/staff-blo ... orce-study

“Despite their strong pro-family values, evangelical Christians have higher than average divorce rates — in fact, being more likely to be divorced than Americans who claim no religion”
Well, aren't they the ones having all the premarital sex?





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I knew a guy going to seminary back in the day. I saw his girlfriend walking to a department store one day. When I asked her why, she said she was going to buy sexy lingerie for him when he gets home as they had sex every weekend he was home from seminary.
Future preacher right there!
But hey: at least he wasn't molesting boys I suppose.
All god's Children need sex . . . . eventually.


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Do they, though?
Some priests that enter their 'profession' as virgins, we're told, usually abstain their entire life if they die as priests.
And Mr. Popey Pope... he's abstaining? Inquiring minds, and all of that.
That's the story they want you to buy when actually . . .


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And who's more devout than priests. (rhetorical question O:) )


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And who's more devout than priests
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The 8% today who are following God's word and abstaining until they are married, despite what society says.

The Bible does give advice to those that cannot control themselves.
But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
During the Reformation, one of the first indications of a priest's conversion was his marriage to a woman so he would not burn with passion.

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EarthScienceguy wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:17 pm [Replying to Miles in post #51]
And who's more devout than priests
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The 8% today who are following God's word and abstaining until they are married, despite what society says.
Ah, I believe that it would take far more than simply abstaining from sex to make one more devout than a priest.

But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
Unless, that is, your burning passion is for those of the same sex, in which case if you're a guy "Christians get to kill you. (Leviticus 20:13).


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EarthScienceguy wrote: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:17 pm The Bible does give advice to those that cannot control themselves.
But if they cannot exercise self-control, they should marry. For it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
During the Reformation, one of the first indications of a priest's conversion was his marriage to a woman so he would not burn with passion.
What great advice, marry so you can have sex. Maybe that accounts for the high level of unhappy marriages, sexual abuse and divorce. You can always rely on the Bible to get it right....... not!

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We see also that in the entire Old Testament and New - never do we find anyone ever physically recorded as having been stoned to death for adultery.

It just was never recorded in the Bible.

It may or possibly or probably did happen - however, there is not a single recorded instance or incident that tells that anyone was ever stoned to death for adultery.


The point to the law was orbiting around disease prevention, I believe that stoning to death simply did not occur in the way that people imagine or envision.

The Law was given at the time of Moses, there were diseases, plagues and viruses that were killing thousands of people in just a single day and at this time - yes - there were people recorded as having been killed for committing immoral sex acts and literally infecting others and bringing diseases and plagues into the encampment of the Israelites.

But after this catastrophic event in Moses's lifetime and by him the law was given - however, after Moses we can not point to a single incident where anyone was killed for sexual immorality.

Also, after Moses was gone, the following prophets after him, did not repeat this law.

The prophets after Moses did not declare that the death penalty was important for breaking sexually related blood crimes. Even the homosexuals were never killed. the kings simply told them to leave the area and they were put out of the land.

This law was given during a time period in which diseases and sicknesses were prevalent and spreading to thousands of innocent people and the law was given specifically to prevent people infecting others with sexually transmitted diseases.

If a woman was dishonest and lying about her BLOOD related activities and had had blood transitions with other males and was lying to another man about this - then the law was there to protect a man who would otherwise be a victim of a possible disease or sickness .

A woman who had sexual relations with other men would then lie about this and proceed to marry a man who has 4 or 6 other wives - and this potential sickness or disease would be spread to him and all of his other multiple wives and all of their future children would also become sick and diseased before they knew that the new wife was lying about her BLOOD CRIME....


blood crimes are real -

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