Why is sex outside of marriage wrong?

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Why is sex outside of marriage wrong?

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I'll ask a very simple question.

In Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, sex is allowed only within marriage.

Of course there are some believers who do not really agree with this, but my question is for those who do agree with it.

Can someone (Christian, Muslim, or Jew) explain why sex outside of marriage is wrong, but without citing any religious text(s)?

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RUSLAN wrote: I'll ask a very simple question.

In Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, sex is allowed only within marriage.

Of course there are some believers who do not really agree with this, but my question is for those who do agree with it.

Can someone (Christian, Muslim, or Jew) explain why sex outside of marriage is wrong, but without citing any religious text(s)?

Just to point out, what is forbidden is adultery, not unmarried sex. Premarital sex is discouraged, but it isn't considered 'holy', while sex within marriage is considered 'holy' or special. The attitudes change with the culture and the time, but premarital sex is not forbidden by Jewish law.
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[Replying to post 2 by Goat]

just remember to make sure she is not a virgin.

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Marriage is a contract between two people to be sexually exclusive. Sex outside of marriage, therefore is a violation of the contract.
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RUSLAN wrote: I'll ask a very simple question.

In Christianity, Islam, and Judaism, sex is allowed only within marriage.

Of course there are some believers who do not really agree with this, but my question is for those who do agree with it.

Can someone (Christian, Muslim, or Jew) explain why sex outside of marriage is wrong, but without citing any religious text(s)?
The physical is simultude of the spiritual. Marriage is the symbol for unity between GOD and HIS Church, and sex is the symbol for the unity between GOD and Man. These unities are symbolic of the Unity of Deity between the three divine members of the Trinity. All expressions for the breaking (or ignoring the meaning) of that bond are therefore symbols for idolatry and choosing sin over holiness whether adultery or promiscuity.

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[Replying to post 4 by McCulloch]

well technically speaking biblical marriage is a contract for the female to be sexually exclusive not the male.

Adultery is only having sex with the wife of another male.

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RUSLAN wrote: Can someone (Christian, Muslim, or Jew) explain why sex outside of marriage is wrong, but without citing any religious text(s)?
For me, it was solely about taking responsibility for providing a family and parental mentoring for any offspring.

It is my view that "sexual acts" that do not result in pregnancy or procreation are not "sex" from a religious point of view.

In fact, this is one of the very many reasons that as a Christian I ultimate tossed in the towel on this religion. The Bible simply doesn't address the truly important issues. Instead it's all based on rather crude ignorance from what I consider to be very low-mentality morons.

In fact, look at many religious families. They have all these stupid taboos about "sex acts" (including actions that can't even cause pregnancy or procreation yet they still consider them to be "sex" simply because they produce orgasmic bliss). They have even bastardized masturbation.

Yet in spite of all these sexual taboos many of these "parents" are actually quite lousy parents when it actually comes to raising and mentoring their children.

In fact, the Bible basically has the parents beating the children into submission to their authority rather than actually teaching the children intelligently.

Prov.23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

This is supposedly God's instructions on how to property correct a child. :roll:

It's a disgusting religion, IMHO. Obviously written by morons.
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Divine Insight wrote:
RUSLAN wrote: Can someone (Christian, Muslim, or Jew) explain why sex outside of marriage is wrong, but without citing any religious text(s)?
It's a disgusting religion, IMHO. Obviously written by morons.
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Divine Insight wrote:
Prov.23:13 Withhold not correction from the child: for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die.

This is supposedly God's instructions on how to property correct a child. :roll:
Yep, pretty lame advice and advice that has damaged a lot of families. Corporal punishment is pretty ineffective compared to logical consequences and developing a good relationship with a kid. Experts in the field don't even recommend it for dogs, tho' occasionally you do need to get their attention [dogs I mean] by gently but firmly grabbing them with both hands just under the jaw and taking some of their weight off their front paws.

Prob'ly it'd work well with young children too, a firm but painless grasp by both wrists or shoulders while explaining why running with an axe toward the baby is a bad idea.

But striking? No. Very bad idea that all too often feeds into a father's own issues.
Very bad advice from the Bible.

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Re: Why is sex outside of marriage wrong?

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[Replying to post 1 by RUSLAN]

Sex has always been a taboo concept within most religions. For me, it's nothing more than a bunch of power hungry men with something to prove that had the chance to enforce change within their community.
Nothing more
No God interaction (or god)
No supreme being interaction with what we do with our bodies

Let's all be adults about it and take charge of OUR OWN LIVES and not the lives of others - live & let live - as long as you're not hurting someone else in the process.
You're a Mormon that doesn't like caffeine? Good. Don't drink it but don't hinder others from drinking it
You're a Catholic and don't like birth control? Good. Don't use it but don't hinder others from using it.
You're a Snake Handler and love messin' with snakes? Good. Do it, but not force others to do it.

It all really rather simple if we are like intelligent adults that want to live our own lives and stay out of the lives of others. Unfortunately, in many 'cushy' countries, some people are so flippin' bored that they need to push their opinions and viewpoints onto others while keeping their butts on their comfy sofas and Lay-Z-Boys

Sad really

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