To Hell In A Hand Basket . . . Or Maybe Not

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A few notes taken from an article on internet porn :

* Barna Group, a Christian research organization and Josh McDowell Ministries partnered to survey porn use among Christians and found:


– 68% of church-going men and 50% of pastors view porn on a regular basis. Of young Christian adults 18-24 years old, 76% actively search for porn.

– Many teens are sexting—either on the receiving or sending end of sexually explicit images. 62% of teens and young adults have received a sexually explicit image and 41% have sent one (usually from or to their boyfriend, girlfriend, or friend).

– Youth pastors (64%) confessed to struggling with porn, either currently or in the past.

* The US is the number one producer and consumer of pornography in the world. [Yea! We win]

*Great Britain is the world’s second largest consumer of porn.


*From a survey of UK Christians:
-75% of Christian men view porn at least monthly.
-41% of Christian men admit to being addicted to pornography.
-30% of church leaders view porn regularly
-10% of Christian men have paid for sex.
-90% of Christians believe the church does not adequately support those struggling with porn


* Google Trends has shown for years that the states with the highest populations of evangelicals have the most searches for sex-related terms.

* Eleven is the average age a child is first exposed to porn. 94% of kids will see porn by age 14."
[Age eleven= 6th grade. My guess would have been a few years older]


It appears that a lot of people really, REALLY enjoy porn. Christians, Christian leaders, and teens alike. And not a word in the article about any direct ill effects porn may have. So what can we conclude? From what I've seen, the porn viewer isn't suffering much of anything. Of course some parents are no doubt upset that little Mary knows more about sex than they probably do, but that's the price on pays for not keeping up with societal trends.

So what are your thoughts about porn? I'm assuming that like most good Christians you watch it on a fairly regular basis. ;)



As a side note from the article I found interesting: * 50% of self identified Christians and 36% of Evangelicals have premarital sex. OUCH!
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Miles wrote: Tue Feb 22, 2022 7:51 pm
– 68% of church-going men and 50% of pastors view porn on a regular basis. Of young Christian adults 18-24 years old, 76% actively search for porn.


I'd suspect that some pastors are underreporting their porn viewing habits. Of course, their access to church going women and girls may lessen their desire for it.


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Miles wrote: Tue Feb 22, 2022 7:51 pm .

A few notes taken from an article on internet porn :

* Barna Group, a Christian research organization and Josh McDowell Ministries partnered to survey porn use among Christians and found:


– 68% of church-going men and 50% of pastors view porn on a regular basis. Of young Christian adults 18-24 years old, 76% actively search for porn.

– Many teens are sexting—either on the receiving or sending end of sexually explicit images. 62% of teens and young adults have received a sexually explicit image and 41% have sent one (usually from or to their boyfriend, girlfriend, or friend).

– Youth pastors (64%) confessed to struggling with porn, either currently or in the past.

* The US is the number one producer and consumer of pornography in the world. [Yea! We win]

*Great Britain is the world’s second largest consumer of porn.


*From a survey of UK Christians:
-75% of Christian men view porn at least monthly.
-41% of Christian men admit to being addicted to pornography.
-30% of church leaders view porn regularly
-10% of Christian men have paid for sex.
-90% of Christians believe the church does not adequately support those struggling with porn


* Google Trends has shown for years that the states with the highest populations of evangelicals have the most searches for sex-related terms.

* Eleven is the average age a child is first exposed to porn. 94% of kids will see porn by age 14."
[Age eleven= 6th grade. My guess would have been a few years older]


It appears that a lot of people really, REALLY enjoy porn. Christians, Christian leaders, and teens alike. And not a word in the article about any direct ill effects porn may have. So what can we conclude? From what I've seen, the porn viewer isn't suffering much of anything. Of course some parents are no doubt upset that little Mary knows more about sex than they probably do, but that's the price on pays for not keeping up with societal trends.

So what are your thoughts about porn? I'm assuming that like most good Christians you watch it on a fairly regular basis. ;)



As a side note from the article I found interesting: * 50% of self identified Christians and 36% of Evangelicals have premarital sex. OUCH!
source


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Too much can be bad, but I don't see a problem with it. Yes there are those 'devout' kids that may have not seen 'porn' (aka penetration), but sex has permeated society in such a way there's no escape from it (unless you're living in the woods or in a cult somewhere - both which are very real).
Like ALL things 'christian', if it's not 'for god', it's bad in some way.
Have a great, potentially godless, day!

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nobspeople wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:36 am
Miles wrote: Tue Feb 22, 2022 7:51 pm .

A few notes taken from an article on internet porn :

* Barna Group, a Christian research organization and Josh McDowell Ministries partnered to survey porn use among Christians and found:


– 68% of church-going men and 50% of pastors view porn on a regular basis. Of young Christian adults 18-24 years old, 76% actively search for porn. [just had to highlight this one]

– Many teens are sexting—either on the receiving or sending end of sexually explicit images. 62% of teens and young adults have received a sexually explicit image and 41% have sent one (usually from or to their boyfriend, girlfriend, or friend).

– Youth pastors (64%) confessed to struggling with porn, either currently or in the past.

* The US is the number one producer and consumer of pornography in the world. [Yea! We win]

*Great Britain is the world’s second largest consumer of porn.

*From a survey of UK Christians:
-75% of Christian men view porn at least monthly.
-41% of Christian men admit to being addicted to pornography.
-30% of church leaders view porn regularly
-10% of Christian men have paid for sex.
-90% of Christians believe the church does not adequately support those struggling with porn

* Google Trends has shown for years that the states with the highest populations of evangelicals have the most searches for sex-related terms.

*Eleven is the average age a child is first exposed to porn. 94% of kids will see porn by age 14." [Age eleven= 6th grade. My guess would have been a few years older]


It appears that a lot of people really, REALLY enjoy porn. Christians, Christian leaders, and teens alike. And not a word in the article about any direct ill effects porn may have. So what can we conclude? From what I've seen, the porn viewer isn't suffering much of anything. Of course some parents are no doubt upset that little Mary knows more about sex than they probably do, but that's the price on pays for not keeping up with societal trends.

So what are your thoughts about porn? I'm assuming that like most good Christians you watch it on a fairly regular basis. ;)



As a side note from the article I found interesting: * 50% of self identified Christians and 36% of Evangelicals have premarital sex. OUCH!
source


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Too much can be bad, but I don't see a problem with it. Yes there are those 'devout' kids that may have not seen 'porn' (aka penetration), but sex has permeated society in such a way there's no escape from it (unless you're living in the woods or in a cult somewhere - both which are very real).
Like ALL things 'christian', if it's not 'for god', it's bad in some way.

Too much would indeed be bad, but only if it results in actual harm. So, does it? Nope, it does not, at least no more so than any other activity done to excess. My opinion of porn is that the problem is not in viewing porn itself, but that some people have been inculcated with the idea that such viewing should be avoided because in its self porn is harmful, detrimental, corrupting, etc. etc., but how can the mere watching of someone having consensual, pleasurable sex be harmful, detrimental, corrupting, etc. etc.? It can't, pure and simple. So my advice to watching consensual sex is: Carry on Macduff. The participants want you to watch, you want to watch, so enjoy thyself. O:)


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Miles wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 3:46 pm
nobspeople wrote: Mon Apr 18, 2022 11:36 am
Miles wrote: Tue Feb 22, 2022 7:51 pm .

A few notes taken from an article on internet porn :

* Barna Group, a Christian research organization and Josh McDowell Ministries partnered to survey porn use among Christians and found:


– 68% of church-going men and 50% of pastors view porn on a regular basis. Of young Christian adults 18-24 years old, 76% actively search for porn. [just had to highlight this one]

– Many teens are sexting—either on the receiving or sending end of sexually explicit images. 62% of teens and young adults have received a sexually explicit image and 41% have sent one (usually from or to their boyfriend, girlfriend, or friend).

– Youth pastors (64%) confessed to struggling with porn, either currently or in the past.

* The US is the number one producer and consumer of pornography in the world. [Yea! We win]

*Great Britain is the world’s second largest consumer of porn.

*From a survey of UK Christians:
-75% of Christian men view porn at least monthly.
-41% of Christian men admit to being addicted to pornography.
-30% of church leaders view porn regularly
-10% of Christian men have paid for sex.
-90% of Christians believe the church does not adequately support those struggling with porn

* Google Trends has shown for years that the states with the highest populations of evangelicals have the most searches for sex-related terms.

*Eleven is the average age a child is first exposed to porn. 94% of kids will see porn by age 14." [Age eleven= 6th grade. My guess would have been a few years older]


It appears that a lot of people really, REALLY enjoy porn. Christians, Christian leaders, and teens alike. And not a word in the article about any direct ill effects porn may have. So what can we conclude? From what I've seen, the porn viewer isn't suffering much of anything. Of course some parents are no doubt upset that little Mary knows more about sex than they probably do, but that's the price on pays for not keeping up with societal trends.

So what are your thoughts about porn? I'm assuming that like most good Christians you watch it on a fairly regular basis. ;)



As a side note from the article I found interesting: * 50% of self identified Christians and 36% of Evangelicals have premarital sex. OUCH!
source


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Too much can be bad, but I don't see a problem with it. Yes there are those 'devout' kids that may have not seen 'porn' (aka penetration), but sex has permeated society in such a way there's no escape from it (unless you're living in the woods or in a cult somewhere - both which are very real).
Like ALL things 'christian', if it's not 'for god', it's bad in some way.

Too much would indeed be bad, but only if it results in actual harm. So, does it? Nope, it does not, at least no more so than any other activity done to excess. My opinion of porn is that the problem is not in viewing porn itself, but that some people have been inculcated with the idea that such viewing should be avoided because in its self porn is harmful, detrimental, corrupting, etc. etc., but how can the mere watching of someone having consensual, pleasurable sex be harmful, detrimental, corrupting, etc. etc.? It can't, pure and simple. So my advice to watching consensual sex is: Carry on Macduff. The participants want you to watch, you want to watch, so enjoy thyself. O:)


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I think it is harmful to specific people that have issues with self esteem (etc) and expectations of others - I've seen it first hand. But to the majority, I think it's not that big of a deal as the majority don't have underlying issues.
Have a great, potentially godless, day!

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