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koko wrote: Sat Sep 12, 2020 11:14 am 195,000 Americans dead to corona virus and Trump's incompetence.


Meanwhile,


Canada reports zero COVID-19 deaths for first time since March


TORONTO (Reuters) - Canada reported zero COVID-19 deaths in the past 24 hours for the first time since March 15, according to public health agency data released late on Friday.

Canada’s death toll from the pandemic stood at 9,163 as of Sept. 11, the same as the number of the deaths reported on Sept. 10, government data showed. The number of positive cases rose by 702 to 135,626 on Sept. 11 from the previous day, the data showed.

With most provinces easing lockdown restrictions and as schools reopen for in-person classes, Canada’s infections have seen a mild pick-up in recent days. Authorities have been on high alert to avoid fresh outbreaks, and provinces including British Columbia have imposed new curbs to tackle the spread of the virus.

Still, Canada’s situation looks relatively healthy compared to its southern neighbor. Across the border in the United States, more than 190,000 people have died from the pandemic and more than 6.38 million people have been infected.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-heal ... SKBN26301J




We need the same type of health care they have in Canada. We also need that same type of leadership. Clearly, Trump is too incompetent to lead the USA. The only path he is leading us into is one of death and destruction.
Being apolitical and therefore not having a dog in this dog and pony show it is nevertheless interesting to me, this type of soap boxing. I guess it's not so much interesting because the Democrats don't seem to understand that it's turning people off because evaluating such things like this is so uncertain. They are way too complex. What is to me so interesting is just the waiting to see if they will figure out they've hit bottom and stop digging or that they will actually turn out to win the race. The latter is so interesting because it then begs the question of exactly how crazy people can get and that can be, I suspect, very crazy.
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DavidLeon wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 2:00 am
Being apolitical and therefore not having a dog in this dog and pony show it is nevertheless interesting to me, this type of soap boxing. I guess it's not so much interesting because the Democrats don't seem to understand that it's turning people off because evaluating such things like this is so uncertain. They are way too complex. What is to me so interesting is just the waiting to see if they will figure out they've hit bottom and stop digging or that they will actually turn out to win the race. The latter is so interesting because it then begs the question of exactly how crazy people can get and that can be, I suspect, very crazy.


Turning people off? In fact, recent TV campaign ads by Biden have made this issue a point of emphasis. This should not come as a surprise since the needless deaths of 195,000 should not be dismissed. This especially since those deaths were preventable if the USA had the type of liberal leadership and political policies that Canadians enjoy.

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koko wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 11:07 amTurning people off? In fact, recent TV campaign ads by Biden have made this issue a point of emphasis. This should not come as a surprise since the needless deaths of 195,000 should not be dismissed. This especially since those deaths were preventable if the USA had the type of liberal leadership and political policies that Canadians enjoy.
Don't you think you are politicizing a complex issue so careless that it could be worse than dismissal? The US population of over 330 million compared to Canada's 37 million? A wait time for 22 weeks to see a specialist after a primary physician's referral in Canada compared to 22 days in the US? A Canadian with a possible brain tumor can wait for a month and so comes here to the US and pays out of pocket for an MRI. Have you considered these sorts of things?

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USA population is 10 times bigger than Canada's. Yet the corona deaths are 20 times bigger. This because of incompetence in its leadership and the lack of health care.

Canadians wait a little longer for brain surgery? Americans DIE because they cannot afford brain surgery. Obviously it is infintely worse here.

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koko wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:49 pm USA population is 10 times bigger than Canada's. Yet the corona deaths are 20 times bigger. This because of incompetence in its leadership and the lack of health care.
So it isn't about population density or something like that, it's because Trump, a Republican, is in the White House. If a Democrat like Biden were in the White House corona deaths would be 20 times smaller. Who is the leader of Canada? Justin Trudeau, who, "in the midst of the Covid-19 pandemic, is embroiled in another controversy of his own making . . . after his government announced the deal to pay WE Charity up to C$43 million to administer a C$912-million student grant program as part of Canada’s Covid-19 response.

"The public and parliamentary reaction in Canada to the news and further revelations of speaking fees and travel expenses paid to family members of Trudeau and Finance Minister Bill Morneau has been swift and harsh." (Source: Politico)

Rampant insane partisan ideology will fix the pandemic or create a distraction which does dismiss the reality? The latter without a doubt. It's the American Dream. We have a history of dismissing reality in that way. That's how every four years the circus comes to town and we get busy dismissing it.
koko wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 5:49 pmCanadians wait a little longer for brain surgery? Americans DIE because they cannot afford brain surgery. Obviously it is infintely worse here.
Canadians are coming here because they can't get the surgery in Canada. The Republicans and the Democrats won't solve the problems of the healthcare system. They won't put a stop to Americans dying because the Republicans and the Democrats are paid by lobbyists for the healthcare system not to fix it. In reality it isn't broke because it makes a lot of people a lot of money and that is more important to Americans than poor people dying. So the first step in fixing problems like this is to get rid of the system, including the Democrats and Republicans.
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There are FAR more Americans who go overseas for health care, including Canada. Rand Paul and Sarah Palin who both condemn universal care have gone on record as going to Canada for its superior and more affordable health care.

Biden has gone on record as to the reforms he would have imposed in order to save American lives. I would have done the same as disease prevention is not a burden but a duty. That's not a partisan matter - it is a patriotic matter. Too bad so many on the right just don't know what real patriotism is. That is why they object to preventive medicine and practices.

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koko wrote: Sun Sep 13, 2020 10:50 pm There are FAR more Americans who go overseas for health care, including Canada. Rand Paul and Sarah Palin who both condemn universal care have gone on record as going to Canada for its superior and more affordable health care.

Biden has gone on record as to the reforms he would have imposed in order to save American lives. I would have done the same as disease prevention is not a burden but a duty. That's not a partisan matter - it is a patriotic matter. Too bad so many on the right just don't know what real patriotism is. That is why they object to preventive medicine and practices.
I think it was William Pitt who said patriotism is the last refuge for the scoundrel. I personally think that money should be eradicated because although useful at one time it is now obsolete. The debt based global economy done away with would remove the incentive for abuse and corruption as well as suppression of advancement in science and technology which could easily provided for most of the needs of every man, woman and child on the planet regardless of nationality, race, or any other petty divisions we have created for ourselves. Crime, hunger, lack of clean drinking water and proper healthcare could be greatly improved.

That will never happen on a global scale with patriotism and racism, greed and politics. Get rid of the international fractional reserve bankers, who control the politicians by getting rid of the debt based economy. Money. I don't disagree with your intentions I disagree with your methodology. If your guy was in power you would be proclaiming that the leader of a country has very little effect on the deaths caused by the pandemic. It's a counterproductive smokescreen.

It has been my experience that when someone proclaims they love the poor what they really mean is that they hate the rich. The broken system will never fix the problem and until we can see beyond that system we are only prolonging the suffering we appear to be foolishly rallying against.

Jehovah, Lord of armies and not man must do this.
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DavidLeon wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:17 am It has been my experience that when someone proclaims they love the poor what they really mean is that they hate the rich. The broken system will never fix the problem and until we can see beyond that system we are only prolonging the suffering we appear to be foolishly rallying against.

Jehovah, Lord of armies and not man must do this.


Read the Book of Amos where it is written that unjust humans must fix it and not wait for some god to do their work.

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DavidLeon wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:17 am Jehovah, Lord of armies and not man must do this.
If we are going to turn to mythology to resolve the COVID-19 pandemic, I'd recommend Hygieia goddess of good health, cleanliness, and sanitation. Like Jehovah, she won't actually do anything, but at least she has the correct resume.


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Tcg wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 11:43 pm
DavidLeon wrote: Mon Sep 14, 2020 2:17 am Jehovah, Lord of armies and not man must do this.
If we are going to turn to mythology to resolve the COVID-19 pandemic, I'd recommend Hygieia goddess of good health, cleanliness, and sanitation. Like Jehovah, she won't actually do anything, but at least she has the correct resume.
About as effective as Republican or Democrat. Again with the misguided atheist fundamentalist answer that are misguided. Why on earth would you expect anyone to think that Jehovah, if he were real, would do anything about the pandemic? He is the one that brought sickness and death into the world after Adam's sin. All that stuff you learned is religious nonsense. Now, you know this, but you (atheist fundamentalists) keep fighting the fire with fire.
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