For the gate is small, and the way is narrow that leads to life, and few are those that find it.
Taking this into consideration...
For the gate is small, and the way is narrow that leads to life, and few are those that find it.
The words of the Lord Jesus Christ (Matthew 7:14).
...do you believe you will attain heaven?
"Strive to enter in by the narrow door; for many, I tell you, will seek to enter and will not be able"
There are roughly 2 billion Christians in the world. If the above two quotes are true, a lot of people will be disappointed. Why do you feel this is?
A question for all Christians..
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A question for all Christians..
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Re: A question for all Christions..
Post #2There might be 2 billion people who claim to be Christians, but that doesn't mean they are Christians.Corvus wrote: There are roughly 2 billion Christians in the world. If the above two quotes are true, a lot of people will be disappointed. Why do you feel this is?
It's estimated that 85% of the people here in the US claim to be Christians. Anyone can claim to be anything they want. I can claim to be a member of the Green Berets, but that doesn't make me one. I might even own an Army fatigue and put it on and run around in my backyard shooting birds with my BB gun. But I would only be deluding myself if I thought I was actually a Green Beret.
And, yes, I do think a lot of people will be disappointed on the day of judgement.
Mat 7:21-23 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity."
Post #3
I agree with otseng that many people say they believe, but may not. I don't really believe in sectarian damnation so I wont go so far as to say that one denomination is right and all the others are wrong, but I know some sects do teach that. Specifically Catholicism and Eastern Orthodox the two largest sects that together I think make up about 75% of the Christian population.
As for whether or not I feel I will reach heaven well, Christ said, "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." - Mark 16:16, and unless there is something in that statement which eludes me I think I meet the requirements.
As for whether or not I feel I will reach heaven well, Christ said, "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned." - Mark 16:16, and unless there is something in that statement which eludes me I think I meet the requirements.
Considering.............
Post #4Yes. But is it because I myself would be rejected? If I do go to hell, it's obviously because I deserve it.There are roughly 2 billion Christians in the world. If the above two quotes are true, a lot of people will be disappointed. Why do you feel this is?
Maybe I should be more upset because there are a lot of other people that are just as good or better than me who might also get rejected. What about them?
Post #5
Yes, I believe I will enter through that small gate. I already live in a minority here on earth.
I don't recall anything in that text quoted that it is only referenced for Christians. I think the reference is for the whole world. I think also that when that time comes and those people who are trying to enter the gate don't get in, they won't get in also because that is where they will try to use the excuse "you didn't give me enough evidence...". another good example of this is the ten virgins and the arriving groom. It'll be a "you should have thought a little more about the possibilities before it was too late" type of thing.
I don't recall anything in that text quoted that it is only referenced for Christians. I think the reference is for the whole world. I think also that when that time comes and those people who are trying to enter the gate don't get in, they won't get in also because that is where they will try to use the excuse "you didn't give me enough evidence...". another good example of this is the ten virgins and the arriving groom. It'll be a "you should have thought a little more about the possibilities before it was too late" type of thing.
What I believe in my heart must make sense in my mind. –Ravi Zacharias
Post #6
We all do, buddy.Icarus wrote:Yes, I believe I will enter through that small gate. I already live in a minority here on earth.
So I take it then that there will be no complaints from you if it turns out that the Muslims were right? Or if you happen to reincarnate into a single-cellular life form?I don't recall anything in that text quoted that it is only referenced for Christians. I think the reference is for the whole world. I think also that when that time comes and those people who are trying to enter the gate don't get in, they won't get in also because that is where they will try to use the excuse "you didn't give me enough evidence...". another good example of this is the ten virgins and the arriving groom. It'll be a "you should have thought a little more about the possibilities before it was too late" type of thing.
Post #8
?Icarus wrote:If the Muslims are right, then I'm still in the door.
Attempting to cover your bases, are we?
I was thinking more of a (bacterial equivalent of) kicking oneself for choosing wrong.And if I reincarnate, what exactly would I complain too?
To make a better example:
What if all the major religions are wrong, and it turns out that the only people who will get into heaven are those who believe that they are going to cease to exist after their death here?
Post #9
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No not covering the bases, LOL, I just knew that Muslims accepted Jesus as A prophet just not THE prophet. As well as accept most of the old testament. ... I knew the question had certain knowledge flaws.
We could "what if" till the cows come home.
No not covering the bases, LOL, I just knew that Muslims accepted Jesus as A prophet just not THE prophet. As well as accept most of the old testament. ... I knew the question had certain knowledge flaws.
We could "what if" till the cows come home.
What I believe in my heart must make sense in my mind. –Ravi Zacharias
Post #10
Aww, but I thought you were interested in, what was it, thinking "a little more about the possibilities before it was too late"?Icarus wrote: We could "what if" till the cows come home.
Or was that something just for those who do not share your particular set of beliefs to concern themselves with?