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Are we living in the last days?

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JehovahsWitness wrote: From speaking with my brothers and sister, far from undermining our faith and causing confusion, the impact of coronavirus only serves to strengthen our conviction we are living in the last days and our resolve to preach the good news of the kingdom before the Lord tells us the work is complete.
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brunumb wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 6:57 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Fri Oct 15, 2021 1:46 pm As for a real life analysis of the tribulation, such as pestilence, of the "last days", look at the Progressive areas which promote abortion and lawlessness, such as California, with its power outages, fires, lack of water resources, high taxes, lost industry, lost population, lawlessness, etc.
:? How do power outages, fires, lack of water resources, high taxes, lost industry, lost population, lawlessness, etc. promote abortion?
Why, it's all signs that the world is going to hell in a handbasket....as it has ever since doomesday prophecy was invented, and thus is Evidence that the Last Days are coming.

Frankly, "Yawn" ...and let them preach the end of the world. I say only 'don't forget' and pillory them when it doesn't happen, yet again. I gotta dream...that one day, people who scaremonger like that in order to frighten people into church will find themselves facing a criminal charge with at least a heavy fine for making socially damaging false claims. Too long we have let them get away with this sort of stuff scot free.

Ok.. :D that probably won't happen either...but at least we can laugh and laugh louder when they explain ''ok it didn't happen This time, but it will happen next time.... "There shell be rainfall in Oregon, and lightning shall strike a tree in Maine...verily, many shall get sick and die and businesses shall go bankrupt. Then shall ye know that the Last days are on their way..."

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brunumb wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 8:29 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Sat Oct 16, 2021 11:17 am First paragraph in red. It is an estimate on how many Australian women will have an abortion. Go down to your local pub, have a draught with your mates, and ask the women how many have had or will have an abortion.
Perhaps you should go down to your local church, have a drought ;) of communion wine and ask the women how many have had or will have an abortion. You might be surprised.

The irony in all your biblically inspired tales of impending doom is that, natural events aside, the majority of it is a consequence of overpopulation. A civilisation in which every conception went to term would have collapsed long ago. In any case, none of it has anything to do with predictions of Jesus swooping down to earth on his jet-powered cloud to wreak havoc on the wicked and rule over a bunch of minimally intelligent hairless apes.
Australia's curse of those in Victoria, such as being locked up in their domiciles, with travel restrictions, is not a curse of over population, which is only around 24 persons per square kilometer, versus 21 million people per square kilometer in Macoa. It is a curse of having Progressive type politicians and their fear of death. Victoria is supposedly the counterpart of California. In fascist Victoria, which suppresses free speech, supposedly by October the 22, you will either have a vaccination, or you will be fined $5000, and of course, the courts and police are except from getting vaccinated, so they can arrest any 8 year old from putting out the trash after 7:00 PM curfew. Keep in mind, Australia has no constitutional free speech amendment.

Civilizations collapse at a regular pace, stemming from periodical climate changes, to simply poor land husbandry, to devaluing the currency, leading to revolution and war and a new "Great Reset". As for churches, the head of the US house of Representatives and the president of the US are proclaimed Catholics, and are responsible for supporting the 60 million abortions in the US since the 1960s. The Australian pub rate of abortion among women might be high because of too much beer consumption, but Pelosi seems to be high while even speaking in Congress. Some women don't need to have abortions, simply because of a natural abortion gene, which is that of being too ugly for even a paper sack to cover. Like in California, I think people in Victoria are trying to get out before they go crazy or broke. They can go far north, where I heard one restaurant owner disallows any customers who have been vaccinated, except they are supposedly under travel restrictions.

As for the coming "doom"/"great tribulation", of the "last days", it is precipitated by a supposedly "natural event" in for the form of a "great earthquake" (Revelation 16:18).

As per China current policy, abortions are leading to the "doom"/downfall of the Chinese economy, and they haven't been able to reverse the trend in order to save their tottering godless/Marxist revolution. They are doubling down with the introduction of more Mao type policies, but it isn't going to work. Although they supposedly control the media and the internet, there are two many holes in their fascist control, and the upcoming economic collapse will turn into a new revolution. They are doomed by their own man made policies, plus the judgment of God, for murdering the innocent.

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TRANSPONDER wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:45 am Frankly, "Yawn" ...and let them preach the end of the world. I say only 'don't forget' and pillory them when it doesn't happen, yet again. I gotta dream...that one day, people who scaremonger like that in order to frighten people into church will find themselves facing a criminal charge with at least a heavy fine for making socially damaging false claims. Too long we have let them get away with this sort of stuff scot free.
Peddling end-of-days nonsense is one thing, but when they combine it with absurd conspiracy theories and propagate lies and misinformation then it is a step too far. If there is a collapse of society imminent, it has nothing to do with biblical prophecy and the return of the spirit-in-the-sky to rule over what's left of the earth when he is done smiting. It will be because of the largely anonymous radical nut-jobs spreading lies, misinformation and distrust through social media and undermining law, order and even our personal welfare. It's hard to understand how they can possibly believe that their actions can lead to a better world. I fear for the future, but not some mythical Armageddon.
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2ndpillar2 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:42 am Australia's curse of those in Victoria, such as being locked up in their domiciles, with travel restrictions, is not a curse of over population, which is only around 24 persons per square kilometer, versus 21 million people per square kilometer in Macoa. It is a curse of having Progressive type politicians and their fear of death. Victoria is supposedly the counterpart of California. In fascist Victoria, which suppresses free speech, ...
Progressive fascism - that's a new one on me.

Civilizations collapse at a regular pace, stemming from periodical climate changes, to simply poor land husbandry, to devaluing the currency, leading to revolution and war and a new "Great Reset".
Agree. Have you read Collapse, by Jared Diamond? Worth your time if not.

Some women don't need to have abortions, simply because of a natural abortion gene, which is that of being too ugly for even a paper sack to cover.
Are you being serious? Is this really how you want to come across in an online forum that encourages respect and civil discourse?

As per China current policy, abortions are leading to the "doom"/downfall of the Chinese economy, ...

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...and the upcoming economic collapse will turn into a new revolution. They are doomed by their own man made policies, plus the judgment of God, for murdering the innocent.
<bolding mine>

J P Morgan seems to disagree with you:
actual economic forecasters wrote:Based on our estimates, the Chinese and U.S. economies will match in size around 2030
Just to be clear (because you didn't offer a timeline for your predictions), do you anticipate a new revolution in China before 2030? Or are we going to have that judgement with all the angels and trumpets before then - rendering such things as 'sustainable growth' largely moot?

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brunumb wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:27 pm
TRANSPONDER wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:45 am Frankly, "Yawn" ...and let them preach the end of the world. I say only 'don't forget' and pillory them when it doesn't happen, yet again. I gotta dream...that one day, people who scaremonger like that in order to frighten people into church will find themselves facing a criminal charge with at least a heavy fine for making socially damaging false claims. Too long we have let them get away with this sort of stuff scot free.
Peddling end-of-days nonsense is one thing, but when they combine it with absurd conspiracy theories and propagate lies and misinformation then it is a step too far. If there is a collapse of society imminent, it has nothing to do with biblical prophecy and the return of the spirit-in-the-sky to rule over what's left of the earth when he is done smiting. It will be because of the largely anonymous radical nut-jobs spreading lies, misinformation and distrust through social media and undermining law, order and even our personal welfare. It's hard to understand how they can possibly believe that their actions can lead to a better world. I fear for the future, but not some mythical Armageddon.
Alas, I have long been aware that a large slice of that Ilk HOPE for everything to go West, because it's prophecy coming true. Are we not aware that some can't wait for global mayhem to start in the middle east and spread to the whole world because it's prophesied, and want politics to work for that end? If we want to have a hope of surviving, we have to work to keep these people out of government. They are more dangerous even than the current crop of sword -wagging dictators.

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Diagoras wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 10:17 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:42 am Australia's curse of those in Victoria, such as being locked up in their domiciles, with travel restrictions, is not a curse of over population, which is only around 24 persons per square kilometer, versus 21 million people per square kilometer in Macoa. It is a curse of having Progressive type politicians and their fear of death. Victoria is supposedly the counterpart of California. In fascist Victoria, which suppresses free speech, ...
Progressive fascism - that's a new one on me.

Civilizations collapse at a regular pace, stemming from periodical climate changes, to simply poor land husbandry, to devaluing the currency, leading to revolution and war and a new "Great Reset".
Agree. Have you read Collapse, by Jared Diamond? Worth your time if not.

Some women don't need to have abortions, simply because of a natural abortion gene, which is that of being too ugly for even a paper sack to cover.
Are you being serious? Is this really how you want to come across in an online forum that encourages respect and civil discourse?

As per China current policy, abortions are leading to the "doom"/downfall of the Chinese economy, ...

<snip>

...and the upcoming economic collapse will turn into a new revolution. They are doomed by their own man made policies, plus the judgment of God, for murdering the innocent.
<bolding mine>

J P Morgan seems to disagree with you:
actual economic forecasters wrote:Based on our estimates, the Chinese and U.S. economies will match in size around 2030
Just to be clear (because you didn't offer a timeline for your predictions), do you anticipate a new revolution in China before 2030? Or are we going to have that judgement with all the angels and trumpets before then - rendering such things as 'sustainable growth' largely moot?
The military arm, which the Progressive left has used, is the Fascist Antifa, and the Marxist BLM, which is Fascist in nature. The democrats previously used the KKK as their military arm, but now use that defunct organization as a source of propaganda. This is in line with the "last days", as in the "tribulation", whereas nations arise against each others, people will hate one another, "false prophets" arise, such as John Kerry who prophesized the end of the world per global warming, which has now been changed to "climate change", since the world hasn't warmed for over 18 years, despite rises in CO2 levels. Apparently global warming isn't working to scare the people, so Covid is the new go to position to control the people. The target line for the "great reset" is 2030. Apparently, according "you go Branden", it isn't working.

As for JP Morgan, or even the US Federal Reserve, their system is based on a faith on a failing system, and it is in their interest to promote a false narrative. But go ahead and invest in Chinese bonds. The Chinese real estate development companies are paying as high as 20% rates, and real estate sales are down around 30%. As the development companies are not making their bond payments, and some of their stocks are down around 90%, they will have no problem in not making payments, for they will be in bankruptcy, and it will be someone elses's problem. U.S. retirement programs, heavily invested in Chinese high interest bonds, will take a big hit. The bankers and Federal Reserve had high praise for the economy just prior to the 2008 crash. I would say to invest in gold, but Roosevelt confiscated gold after the great depression in around 1933, and no doubt, with JP Morgan depressing the price of gold through paper sales, they will do that again, but after the elites have bought as much low cost real gold or real property as they can afford, and hidden it outside of US government control. Now you go ahead and trust JP Morgan with whatever you want, but on the other hand, I won't trust them or the Federal Reserve, who buy junk bonds through banks, such as JP Morgan. The "elites" have planned on approximately 2030 for their "great reset", but that means they have to crash the system before that date. Biden, along with Treasury, in tandem with the Federal Reserve are doing all they can to bankrupt the U.S. to bring about the "great reset", whose motto is, "you will own nothing and be happy".

You can always spot a Progressive. They have no, nor do they understand humor.

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Some women don't need to have abortions, simply because of a natural abortion gene, which is that of being too ugly for even a paper sack to cover.
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2ndpillar2 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:15 am The "elites" have planned on approximately 2030 for their "great reset", but that means they have to crash the system before that date. Biden, along with Treasury, in tandem with the Federal Reserve are doing all they can to bankrupt the U.S. to bring about the "great reset", whose motto is, "you will own nothing and be happy".
Sounds like you've managed to figure it all out. I wish you luck with your long-term investments.

2ndpillar2 wrote:You can always spot a Progressive. They have no, nor do they understand humor.
Hmmm.

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2ndpillar2 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:15 am You can always spot a Progressive. They have no, nor do they understand humor.
2ndpillar2 wrote: Sun Oct 17, 2021 11:42 am Some women don't need to have abortions, simply because of a natural abortion gene, which is that of being too ugly for even a paper sack to cover.
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2ndpillar2 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:15 am This is in line with the "last days", as in the "tribulation", whereas nations arise against each others, people will hate one another, "false prophets" arise, such as John Kerry who prophesized the end of the world per global warming, which has now been changed to "climate change", since the world hasn't warmed for over 18 years, despite rises in CO2 levels.
It's not in line with anything since your claim is patently false.

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Earth’s temperature has risen by 0.14° F (0.08° C) per decade since 1880, and the rate of warming over the past 40 years is more than twice that: 0.32° F (0.18° C) per decade since 1981.
2020 was the second-warmest year on record based on NOAA’s temperature data, and land areas were record warm.
Averaged across land and ocean, the 2020 surface temperature was 1.76° F (0.98° Celsius) warmer than the twentieth-century average of 57.0°F (13.9°C) and 2.14˚F (1.19˚C) warmer than the pre-industrial period (1880-1900).
Despite a late-year La Niña event that cooled a wide swath of the tropical Pacific Ocean, 2020 came just 0.04˚ Fahrenheit (0.02˚Celsius) shy of tying 2016 for warmest year on record.
The 10 warmest years on record have occurred since 2005.
From 1900 to 1980 a new temperature record was set on average every 13.5 years; from 1981–2019, a new record was set every 3 years.
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