A simple---but serious---question

[Athetotheist]

There are numerous god-men who died and rose from death in stories predating the time of Jesus. Considering the notable differences between the gospel accounts, and particularly the differences between the accounts of Jesus's supposed resurrection, here's a question for gospel apologists to think seriously about:

There are four resurrection accounts about Jesus in the Christian gospels. If the exact same accounts, with the exact same differences, were written about Osiris, Tammuz, Attis or any such god-man other than Jesus, would Christian apologists find all of those accounts believable?

And if they wouldn't find all of them believable, would they find any of them believable?

[Miles]

...many atheists know the Bible very well and comprehend it accurately.

Sorry, impossible to believe that, if they think it has errors or contradictions.

I'm an atheist and I believe the following qualify as contradictions.

Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. —2 Kings 24:8

Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem… —2 Chronicles 36:9

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Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death. —II Samuel 6:23

But the king took the two sons of Rizpah…and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul. —II Samuel 21:8

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2 Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri. —2 Chronicles 22:2

26 Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign; and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Athaliah, the daughter of Omri king of Israel. —2KI 8:26

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16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. —Matthew 1:16

23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli, —Luke 3:23

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11And a voice came from heaven, saying, “You are My beloved Son in whom I am well pleased.” —Mark 1:11 [voice is speaking to Jesus]

17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. —Matthew 3:17 [voice is speaking to others]

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[JehovahsWitness]

Most so called biblical contradictions¤ can be easily explained.






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[Athetotheist]

Most so called biblical contradictions can be readily explained.


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[JehovahsWitness]

Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. —2 Kings 24:8

Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem… —2 Chronicles 36:9

This was probably a scribal (copyist) error.

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[JehovahsWitness]

Therefore Michal the daughter of Saul had no child unto the day of her death. —II Samuel 6:23

But the king took the two sons of Rizpah…and the five sons of Michal the daughter of Saul. —II Samuel 21:8

The first scripture is refering to Michal having not biological children.

The second to her having "adopted" sons.









Source: https://www.merriam-webster.com/diction ... tradiction

[Athetotheist]

...I would say that the Tao Te Ching's greatest wisdom is probably its emphasis on humility.

"The Tao is infinite and eternal.
Why is it eternal?
It was never born,
so it can never die.
Why is it infinite?
It has no desires for itself,
so it is present for all beings.

The Master stays behind,
and so is ahead,
detached from all things,
thus one with them.
Having let go of self,
The Master is perfectly fulfilled."
--Tao Te Ching 7

Thank you. Now I would like to know, why do you think that is wise?

Humility leads to wisdom.

Do you not think it's wise?

[JehovahsWitness]

2 Forty and two years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign, and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. His mother's name also was Athaliah the daughter of Omri. —2 Chronicles 22:2

26 Two and twenty years old was Ahaziah when he began to reign; and he reigned one year in Jerusalem. And his mother's name was Athaliah, the daughter of Omri king of Israel. —2KI 8:26

This can be explained by you misreading 1 CHRON 22:2 which reads 22 years not 42

[Athetotheist]

Jehoiachin was eighteen years old when he began to reign, and he reigned in Jerusalem three months. —2 Kings 24:8

Jehoiachin was eight years old when he began to reign, and he reigned three months and ten days in Jerusalem… —2 Chronicles 36:9

This was probably a scribal (copyist) error.

Why would Jehovah magnify his word above all his name [Psalm 138:2] and then allow his word to be muddled by copyist errors? If he could keep the original texts free of error, shouldn't he have kept the copies free of it as well?

[JehovahsWitness]

Can the issue of staves between Mark 6 and Luke 9 be readily explained?

Mark 6:8
He charged them to take nothing for their journey except a staff–no bread, no bag, no money in their belts–

VS

Luke 9:3-5
And he said to them, “Take nothing for your journey, no staff, nor bag, nor bread, nor money; and do not have two tunics.

Yes, Jesus meant "don't take" as in don't take an extra staff (stave). It's the difference between a holiday goer being told , "Don't wear a coat" and "Don't take a coat". If you don't take a coat you are not carrying anything as a provision in case of need. If you say dont wear a coat you are saying not to use what they presently need.

A staff was a common possession in Jesus day, so Jesus was saying their present possessions woulld be enough and not to make any attempt to acquire more for their journey.

[JehovahsWitness]

If he could keep the original texts free of error, shouldn't he have kept the copies free of it as well?

No I don't think he should have. As long as the message is not corrupted, minor copyist errors are in my opinion of not consequence.



JW

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