It's said god sacrificed its son for the sins of mankind (though, surely, there are those that would argue that point, though this is not the place).
Let's assume that sacrifice is true and happened:
I didn't ask for it.
You didn't ask for it (at least initially - you may have once you were guilted into believing you need it).
I don't know of anyone, living or dead or to be alive, that asked for it without being guilted into believing you need it.
Yet, some claim if said sacrifice isn't accepted, those people will go to hell for eternity (again, this is debatable but not in this thread).
For discussion:
If one didn't ask for the sacrifice, and don't accept it, why should they be allowed to be punished for it by being sent to hell? Surely, god isn't so 'righteous' that it would allow those that it loves to be eternalized in hell for eternity? If god that petty?
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Re: Unaccepted sacrifice
Post #11I posted that information in my original post
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Re: Unaccepted sacrifice
Post #12The reason why person geos to hell is that he is not righteous, but sinful. Accepting the "sacrifice" could help. But rejecting the "sacrifice" means just that the sin remains, which is why also the judgment remains. Rejecting the "sacrifice" I not the reason for the judgment. Rejecting the "sacrifice" means only that the judgment, that comes because of sin, remains.nobspeople wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:24 pm ...
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Re: Unaccepted sacrifice
Post #13So am I. Or at least Your teachings, whether they correspond with the Bible or not.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:14 amWhatever. I am presenting biblical* teachings, I think there may be a subforum for Buddhism. Biblically there isn't any part of a person that continues to existence after biological function ceases. If someone doesn't want to live, they can just go ahead and ... not live. If by "oblivion"/nirvana, the Bouddhists mean, complete non-existence then it is not a 3rd option, its just another name for the 2nd.TRANSPONDER wrote: ↑Tue Feb 01, 2022 3:04 am How about Oblivion - or as the Buddhists call it, 'Nirvana'.
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You mentioned another option. Oblivion is one alternative to being 'with' God I suppose. I mention Nirvana, not to discuss Buddhism but to point up that Oblivion isn't something horrific - in Buddhism it is something they give up everything that makes life worth living (admittedly they get another one) in order to get Oblivion (Nirvana) which (aside the atheist afterlife) is what atheists get for free - according to the Dogma in the Atheist Bible, which, like the Maafia, does not exist.
So the 2nd alternative is 'separation from God', which is a crypto -UR hellthreat, because if it isn't unpleasant ..what's to worry about? so that makes it a 3rd option, even if YOU don't believe in the 2nd.

