Romans 3:23
For everyone has sinned; we all fall short of God’s glorious standard.
Romans 5:12
When Adam sinned, sin entered the world. Adam’s sin brought death, so death spread to everyone, for everyone sinned.
Inerrant scripture words say all men (and women) sinned
Look up the Greek, all and everyone means all and everyone
So every HUMAN sinned per the inerrant scriptures
So, here’s the options:
A) scripture is wrong, everyone didn’t sin and is not born a filthy little sinner
B) Jesus was FULLY MAN, which would have to include sin because the Bible says so, or he wouldn’t be a spotless lamb; He made a conscious decision not to sin, and he absolutely could help it (unlike Paul’s claims in Romans 7)
C) God put on a disguise; He acted like he was fully human but he wasn’t ( in which case living a sinless life is easy for God because he spoke the universe into existence)
Philippians 2:7
….but emptied himself, by taking the form of a servant, being born in the likeness of men.
He only took on the likeness of man not his full sin nature, in which case he didn’t play by the rules for us
No Christian has ever honestly answered this question
Let’s examine the premise we have been programmed to believe and critically examine the text
It has to be all one or the other for the story they tell us to be true
The truth is uncomfortable sometimes
So, which option is least damaging to the narrative?
was Jesus fully human, or was he God in a disguise?
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Re: was Jesus fully human, or was he God in a disguise?
Post #111Ozzy_O wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 5:50 amFalseOneWay wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:07 amI will debate you.
God is a Spirit that entered into this dimension, your world,
by the union of His Spirit and a woman by the name of Jesus.
His body was that of a human and His Spirit was God.
Was He in disguise?
I would have to say
YES.
That is my opening statement.
I await your rebuttal.
This is just between bru and I. When I finish him then
I will debate another, one at a time.
You said:
"God is a Spirit that entered into this dimension, your world,
by the union of His Spirit and a woman by the name of Jesus.
His body was that of a human and His Spirit was God."
He entered this world by the union of His spirit with a woman by the name of Mary, her name wasn't Jesus
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Post #115[Replying to Athetotheist in post #57]
According to Greek Mythology, they do. What are you basing your statement on?Who says they're confined to space, time, life and death? They're gods. If "the God of Israel" doesn't have to be confined to Israel, the gods of Olympus don't have to be confined to Olympus.
Re: was Jesus fully human, or was he God in a disguise?
Post #116Why do you say it is false?Ozzy_O wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 5:50 amFalseOneWay wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:07 amI will debate you.
God is a Spirit that entered into this dimension, your world,
by the union of His Spirit and a woman by the name of Jesus.
His body was that of a human and His Spirit was God.
Was He in disguise?
I would have to say
YES.
That is my opening statement.
I await your rebuttal.
This is just between bru and I. When I finish him then
I will debate another, one at a time.
You said:
"God is a Spirit that entered into this dimension, your world,
by the union of His Spirit and a woman by the name of Jesus.
His body was that of a human and His Spirit was God."
He entered this world by the union f His spirit with a wm And by the name of Mary, her name wasn't Jesus
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Re: was Jesus fully human, or was he God in a disguise?
Post #117Only their mortal nature is limited. Since they are 100% gods, they're also immortal. The two natures don't mix.EarthScienceguy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:56 am [Replying to Athetotheist in post #57]
According to Greek Mythology, they do. What are you basing your statement on?Who says they're confined to space, time, life and death? They're gods. If "the God of Israel" doesn't have to be confined to Israel, the gods of Olympus don't have to be confined to Olympus.
Re: was Jesus fully human, or was he God in a disguise?
Post #118This is not true. Immortal has and can mix with mortals.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:47 pmOnly their mortal nature is limited. Since they are 100% gods, they're also immortal. The two natures don't mix.EarthScienceguy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:56 am [Replying to Athetotheist in post #57]
According to Greek Mythology, they do. What are you basing your statement on?Who says they're confined to space, time, life and death? They're gods. If "the God of Israel" doesn't have to be confined to Israel, the gods of Olympus don't have to be confined to Olympus.
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Post #119[Replying to Athetotheist in post #117]
History does say that Jesus was a real person that walked on this Earth.
You can believe whatever you want to believe that is real. If you want to believe that the Greek gods are real have at it.Only their mortal nature is limited. Since they are 100% gods, they're also immortal. The two natures don't mix.
History does say that Jesus was a real person that walked on this Earth.
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Post #120All the more evidence that the gods of Olympus are immortal.OneWay wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:12 pmThis is not true. Immortal has and can mix with mortals.Athetotheist wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:47 pmOnly their mortal nature is limited. Since they are 100% gods, they're also immortal. The two natures don't mix.EarthScienceguy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:56 am [Replying to Athetotheist in post #57]
According to Greek Mythology, they do. What are you basing your statement on?Who says they're confined to space, time, life and death? They're gods. If "the God of Israel" doesn't have to be confined to Israel, the gods of Olympus don't have to be confined to Olympus.
And you can't disprove that.