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How can we trust the Bible if it's not inerrant?

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From the On the Bible being inerrant thread:
nobspeople wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:42 amHow can you trust something that's written about god that contradictory, contains errors and just plain wrong at times? Is there a logical way to do so, or do you just want it to be god's word so much that you overlook these things like happens so often through the history of christianity?
otseng wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:08 am The Bible can still be God's word, inspired, authoritative, and trustworthy without the need to believe in inerrancy.
For debate:
How can the Bible be considered authoritative and inspired without the need to believe in the doctrine of inerrancy?

While debating, do not simply state verses to say the Bible is inspired or trustworthy.

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Re: How can we trust the Bible if it's not inerrant?

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dad1 wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:46 pm
OneWay wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:43 pm
dad1 wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:36 pm
otseng wrote: Thu Sep 23, 2021 7:35 am From the On the Bible being inerrant thread:
nobspeople wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 9:42 amHow can you trust something that's written about god that contradictory, contains errors and just plain wrong at times? Is there a logical way to do so, or do you just want it to be god's word so much that you overlook these things like happens so often through the history of christianity?
otseng wrote: Wed Sep 22, 2021 7:08 am The Bible can still be God's word, inspired, authoritative, and trustworthy without the need to believe in inerrancy.
For debate:
How can the Bible be considered authoritative and inspired without the need to believe in the doctrine of inerrancy?

While debating, do not simply state verses to say the Bible is inspired or trustworthy.
I would think that a clear difference should be made in whether the bible is in error, or man's idea of what is meant is in error. I would say the error will be on man's side. Since this thread does not want to tolerate Scripture confirming that God inspired the bible, we can take it for granted that it is inspired by God according to Jesus, and the apostles and old testament. That being said, why would anyone insinuate it was not?
Everything is inspired by God in one way or another, even the devils.
No. I do not think God inspires devils to hurt people and try to destroy their faith etc. Every good and perfect gift is from above...the rest...not so much.
God created the devils.
He knew exactly what they would do before He created them.
But yet He created them knowing full well the outcome of it.
Your beliefs are in error.

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OneWay wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:47 pmGod created the devils.
He knew exactly what they would do before He created them.
But yet He created them knowing full well the outcome of it.
Your beliefs are in error.
He created angels actually. They sinned and chose evil.

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dad1 wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:17 pm
OneWay wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:47 pmGod created the devils.
He knew exactly what they would do before He created them.
But yet He created them knowing full well the outcome of it.
Your beliefs are in error.
He created angels actually. They sinned and chose evil.
God created the angels that sinned and became evil.
He knew exactly what they would do before He created them.
But yet He created them knowing full well the outcome of it.
Your beliefs are still in error.

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Re: How can we trust the Bible if it's not inerrant?

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OneWay wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:20 pm
dad1 wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:17 pm
OneWay wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:47 pmGod created the devils.
He knew exactly what they would do before He created them.
But yet He created them knowing full well the outcome of it.
Your beliefs are in error.
He created angels actually. They sinned and chose evil.
God created the angels that sinned and became evil.
He knew exactly what they would do before He created them.
But yet He created them knowing full well the outcome of it.
Your beliefs are still in error.
I do not blame God for the majestic gift of freedom. What has that to do with the inerrant inspiration of the bible?

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dad1 wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:30 pm
OneWay wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:20 pm
dad1 wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 2:17 pm
OneWay wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:47 pmGod created the devils.
He knew exactly what they would do before He created them.
But yet He created them knowing full well the outcome of it.
Your beliefs are in error.
He created angels actually. They sinned and chose evil.
God created the angels that sinned and became evil.
He knew exactly what they would do before He created them.
But yet He created them knowing full well the outcome of it.
Your beliefs are still in error.
I do not blame God for the majestic gift of freedom. What has that to do with the inerrant inspiration of the bible?
You do not have any freedom. And what does " I do not blame God for the majestic gift of freedom."
have to do with the inerrant inspiration of the bible?

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OneWay wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:49 pmYou do not have any freedom.

Say what? Maybe you should speak for yourself. Those who He sets free are free. Indeed.

I have never seen an error in the bible yet.

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dad1 wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:01 pm
OneWay wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:49 pmYou do not have any freedom.

Say what? Maybe you should speak for yourself. Those who He sets free are free. Indeed.

I have never seen an error in the bible yet.
Jesus has not set you free.
And for those whom he has set free are not free to do as they please.

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OneWay wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:14 pm
dad1 wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:01 pm
OneWay wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:49 pmYou do not have any freedom.

Say what? Maybe you should speak for yourself. Those who He sets free are free. Indeed.

I have never seen an error in the bible yet.
Jesus has not set you free.
And for those whom he has set free are not free to do as they please.
Why would anyone value your opinion of what He does over what He says? You do not get a vote about me being free.

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Re: How can we trust the Bible if it's not inerrant?

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dad1 wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:18 pm
OneWay wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:14 pm
dad1 wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:01 pm
OneWay wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:49 pmYou do not have any freedom.

Say what? Maybe you should speak for yourself. Those who He sets free are free. Indeed.

I have never seen an error in the bible yet.
Jesus has not set you free.
And for those whom he has set free are not free to do as they please.
Why would anyone value your opinion of what He does over what He says? You do not get a vote about me being free.
So tell me, are you free, to always obey every commandment,
of Jesus Christ at all times? If you say "yes" then why do not do it?

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Re: How can we trust the Bible if it's not inerrant?

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OneWay wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:20 pm
dad1 wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:18 pm
OneWay wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:14 pm
dad1 wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 5:01 pm
OneWay wrote: Sat Nov 26, 2022 3:49 pmYou do not have any freedom.

Say what? Maybe you should speak for yourself. Those who He sets free are free. Indeed.

I have never seen an error in the bible yet.
Jesus has not set you free.
And for those whom he has set free are not free to do as they please.
Why would anyone value your opinion of what He does over what He says? You do not get a vote about me being free.
So tell me, are you free, to always obey every commandment,
of Jesus Christ at all times? If you say "yes" then why do not do it?
Free from death is a good start. Obsessing over the word free and applying it to every conceivable use of the word is not a game I am interested in playing.

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