Eternity

[Diogenes]

Is it intellectually dishonest to claim "God has always existed, without beginning and without end;"
yet claim the universe must have had a beginning?

[JehovahsWitness]

Since it could be argued that uniqueness is an observable properly of the world around us, what exactly makes it a theorectical impossibility beyond our universe* ?

Anything can be argued even that "uniqueness is an observable properly [sic] of the world around us" ..
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Tcg

Indeed, so how many of you exist? Are you suggesting nothing and no one in the the world can be considered unique?

[Tcg]

Since it could be argued that uniqueness is an observable properly of the world around us, what exactly makes it a theorectical impossibility beyond our universe* ?

[ * ]I usually use conditionals ( ... or suppositions, hypothesis etc ) when discussing in this subforum in order to respect forum guidelines while also avoiding making any absolute claims or assertions for example, that there *is* anything beyond our universe.

Anything can be argued even that "uniqueness is an observable properly [sic] of the world around us" or that there is a "beyond our universe." Absent any support for either, however, there is little reason to consider either an argument.


Tcg

Indeed, so how many of you exist?

Are you attempting to begin a debate where actual verifiable evidence is presented to support claims?


Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

Since it could be argued that uniqueness is an observable properly of the world around us, what exactly makes it a theorectical impossibility beyond our universe* ?

[ * ]I usually use conditionals ( ... or suppositions, hypothesis etc ) when discussing in this subforum in order to respect forum guidelines while also avoiding making any absolute claims or assertions for example, that there *is* anything beyond our universe.

Anything can be argued even that "uniqueness is an observable properly [sic] of the world around us" or that there is a "beyond our universe." Absent any support for either, however, there is little reason to consider either an argument.


Tcg

Indeed, so how many of you exist?

Are you attempting to begin a debate where actual verifiable evidence is presented to support claims?


Tcg

What I am attempting to do is nobody's concern but my own; what I am actually doing is yours: namely challenging your insinuation that there is nothing that can be observed in the world around us that can reasonably described as unique. I have made no claim in this post.

Feel free to clarify if that was not in fact what you were insinuating in your post.



JW

[Tcg]

Since it could be argued that uniqueness is an observable properly of the world around us, what exactly makes it a theorectical impossibility beyond our universe* ?

[ * ]I usually use conditionals ( ... or suppositions, hypothesis etc ) when discussing in this subforum in order to respect forum guidelines while also avoiding making any absolute claims or assertions for example, that there *is* anything beyond our universe.

Anything can be argued even that "uniqueness is an observable properly [sic] of the world around us" or that there is a "beyond our universe." Absent any support for either, however, there is little reason to consider either an argument.


Tcg

Indeed, so how many of you exist?

Are you attempting to begin a debate where actual verifiable evidence is presented to support claims?


Tcg

What I am attempting to do is nobody's concern but my own; what I am actually doing is yours: namely challenging your insinuation that there is nothing that can be observed in the world around us that can reasonably described as unique.

Feel free to clarify if that was not in fact what you were insinuating in your post.

JW

So, "uniqueness is an observable properly [sic] of the world around us", isn't a claim that can be supported by verifiable evidence?


Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

So, this isn't a claim that can be supported by verifiable evidence?


Tcg

I have made no claim. My first post was as stated a hyothetical supposition and my second a request for clarification from you in the form of a question. If you would like to know about a claim that supported by verifiable evidence you wil, have to find someone that makes one and ask them about it.



Please re-read

... what I am actually doing is yours: namely challenging your insinuation that there is nothing that can be observed in the world around us that can reasonably described as unique. I have made no claim in this post.

Feel free to clarify if that was not in fact what you were insinuating in your post.



JW

[Tcg]

So, this isn't a claim that can be supported by verifiable evidence?


Tcg

I have made no claim.

Yes indeed. Therefore, no counter rebuttal is needed.


Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

Yes indeed. Therefore, no counter rebuttal is needed.


Tcg

Okay fine. You dont need to offer counter rebuttal. Now ... would you like to answer the question asked of you?

Indeed, so how many of you exist? Are you suggesting nothing and no one in the the world can be considered unique?

[Tcg]

So, this isn't a claim that can be supported by verifiable evidence?


Tcg

I have made no claim.

Yes indeed. Therefore, no counter rebuttal is needed.


Tcg

Okay so would you like to answer the question asked of you?

Nope. Why would I need to address a question related to a claim I never made?


Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

Okay so would you like to answer the question asked of you?

Nope. ...

Fair enough. One has to wonder why one paricipates in a discussion forum if one scampers away at a simple request for clarification, but not responding to a question is your right and mine.

Have a most excellent weekend,

JW

[Tcg]

Okay so would you like to answer the question asked of you?

Nope. ...

Fair enough. One has to wonder why one paricipates in a discussion forum if one scampers away at a simple for clarification...

Why would my responses be clarified as scampering away? I am in fact still reading and responding to your replies. Additionally, this is not a discussion forum, it is a debate forum, thus the title "Debating Christianity and Religion." Of course, that fact can be ignored by claiming one is never making any claims thus leaving nothing to debate.


Tcg