Why worship gods?

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Why worship gods?

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Simple question: Why worship gods?
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ANY of the thousands of "gods" proposed, imagined, worshiped, loved, feared, and/or fought over by humans MAY exist -- awaiting verifiable evidence

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theophile wrote: [Replying to post 36 by rikuoamero]
Why do you think it took until the Exodus for law to be given?! Abraham sure didn't need it.
You mean the exodus that never happened? As I understand it, there is no archaeological evidence to show an exodus ever occurred.

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True full worship is not always a choice.

2 Chronicles 7:1 Now when Solomon had finished praying, fire came down from heaven and consumed the burnt offering and the sacrifices, and the glory of the Lord filled the house. 2 The priests could not enter into the house of the Lord because the glory of the Lord filled the Lord’s house. 3 All the sons of Israel, seeing the fire come down and the glory of the Lord upon the house, bowed down on the pavement with their faces to the ground, and they worshiped and gave praise to the Lord, saying, “Truly He is good, truly His lovingkindness is everlasting.�

When a person is visited by GOD, the event is overpowering, overwhelming and usually results in high praise for HIM naturally flowing from the understanding of not only the vast differences but also the indescribable closeness of Almighty GOD to us.

This is also felt slightly when one meditates upon GOD and the feeling of HIS worthiness to be praised for HIS glory rises in us above our mere understanding that HE is worthy. If it does not arise naturally and spontaneously, it is not worship like a 'lover' who asks "what is love" obviously cannot be in love and no one who has never loved can know the answer.

Why worship our GOD? One cannot help but worship in the realization of HIS presence. Even Satan sang HIS praises when he saw the creation of the physical universe.
PCE Theology as I see it...

We had an existence with a free will in Sheol before the creation of the physical universe. Here we chose to be able to become holy or to be eternally evil in YHWH's sight. Then the physical universe was created and all sinners were sent to earth.

This theology debunks the need to base Christianity upon the blasphemy of creating us in Adam's sin.

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ttruscott wrote: True full worship is not always a choice.

2 Chronicles 7:1 Now when Solomon had finished praying, fire came down from heaven and consumed the burnt offering and the sacrifices, and the glory of the Lord filled the house. 2 The priests could not enter into the house of the Lord because the glory of the Lord filled the Lord’s house. 3 All the sons of Israel, seeing the fire come down and the glory of the Lord upon the house, bowed down on the pavement with their faces to the ground, and they worshiped and gave praise to the Lord, saying, “Truly He is good, truly His lovingkindness is everlasting.�

When a person is visited by GOD, the event is overpowering, overwhelming and usually results in high praise for HIM naturally flowing from the understanding of not only the vast differences but also the indescribable closeness of Almighty GOD to us.

This is also felt slightly when one meditates upon GOD and the feeling of HIS worthiness to be praised for HIS glory rises in us above our mere understanding that HE is worthy. If it does not arise naturally and spontaneously, it is not worship like a 'lover' who asks "what is love" obviously cannot be in love and no one who has never loved can know the answer.

Why worship our GOD? One cannot help but worship in the realization of HIS presence. Even Satan sang HIS praises when he saw the creation of the physical universe.
Although God is reputed to have been very hands on in the past, He is unfailingly quiescent now. During the course of my 68 years I have seen no sign of God whatsoever. None! In what way is a God who never actually manifests Himself physically any different from a God who was never there to begin with? In what way is believing in and fearing the wrath of God any different from believing in and fearing the boogeyman?
Image "The word God is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honorable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this." -- Albert Einstein -- Written in 1954 to Jewish philosopher Erik Gutkind.

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ttruscott wrote: True full worship is not always a choice.

2 Chronicles 7:1 Now when Solomon had finished praying, fire came down from heaven and consumed the burnt offering and the sacrifices, and the glory of the Lord filled the house. 2 The priests could not enter into the house of the Lord because the glory of the Lord filled the Lord’s house. 3 All the sons of Israel, seeing the fire come down and the glory of the Lord upon the house, bowed down on the pavement with their faces to the ground, and they worshiped and gave praise to the Lord, saying, “Truly He is good, truly His lovingkindness is everlasting.�

When a person is visited by GOD, the event is overpowering, overwhelming and usually results in high praise for HIM naturally flowing from the understanding of not only the vast differences but also the indescribable closeness of Almighty GOD to us.

This is also felt slightly when one meditates upon GOD and the feeling of HIS worthiness to be praised for HIS glory rises in us above our mere understanding that HE is worthy. If it does not arise naturally and spontaneously, it is not worship like a 'lover' who asks "what is love" obviously cannot be in love and no one who has never loved can know the answer.

Why worship our GOD? One cannot help but worship in the realization of HIS presence. Even Satan sang HIS praises when he saw the creation of the physical universe.
Feeling god?

Biologist John Wathey takes the reader on a scientific journey to find the sources of religious feeling and the illusion of God’s presence. His book delves into the biological origins of this compelling feeling, attributing it to innate neural circuitry that evolved to promote the mother-child bond. Dr. Wathey, a veteran neuroscientist, argues that evolution has programmed the infant brain to expect the presence of a loving being who responds to the child’s needs. As the infant grows into adulthood, this innate feeling is eventually transferred to the realm of religion, where it is reactivated through the symbols, imagery, and rituals of worship. The author interprets our various conceptions of God in biological terms as illusory supernormal stimuli that fill an emotional and cognitive vacuum left over from infancy.
http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... -evolution

Replacing the mommy vacuum with a god.
Makes more sense to me then the genocidial god concepts we now have actually being real.
You can give a man a fish and he will be fed for a day, or you can teach a man to pray for fish and he will starve to death.

I blame man for codifying those rules into a book which allowed superstitious people to perpetuate a barbaric practice. Rules that must be followed or face an invisible beings wrath. - KenRU

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