Easter Traditions?

[Tcg]

Are there any Easter Traditions that are related specifically to Jesus' resurrection? The Easter eggs hunts, bunnies and pastel-colored candies seem to be a celebration of spring. Certainly, sermons will be preached on Jesus' resurrection, but are there any Easter Traditions that Christians practice with their families that are focused on Jesus?


Tcg

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[Replying to 2ndpillar2 in post #11

On the other hand, the last supper was eaten at the beginning of Passover, before the lamb for Passover was sacrificed.

On the first day of Unleavened Bread, when they sacrifice the Passover lamb, His disciples asked Him, “Where do You want us to go and prepare the Passover so You may eat it?” (Mark 14:12)

How could Jesus eat the last supper before the sacrificing of the passover lamb if the disciples didn't go out to prepare for the meal until the day the lambs were sacrificed?

An interesting question. Aside from the suggestion from the procession to the Temple that the event was actually during Sukkhot, I know that the 'Last Supper' is supposed to be at Passover, but I'm sure that the crucifixion is also supposed to be at the time the sacrificial lambs were killed in the Temple, and the Sabbath next day was also Passover. But I'm not sure that the gospels actually say that the Saturday was also Passover. I may have in mind the reference to the 'day of preparation' but that is simply the Friday before the Sabbath.

[JehovahsWitness]

On the first day of Unleavened Bread, when they sacrifice the Passover lamb, His disciples asked Him, “Where do You want us to go and prepare the Passover so You may eat it?” (Mark 14:12)

How could Jesus eat the last supper before the sacrificing of the passover lamb if the disciples didn't go out to prepare for the meal until the day the lambs were sacrificed?

It is generally accepted that by Jesus day the Passover (Sedar) meal and the 7 day public holiday merged for all intents and purposes and were spoken of under the same umbrelle term. (Rather like Christmas in the vernacular is spoken of as covering the entire holiday period not just the public holidays ). Thus Mark's time marker probably referred to the preparation of the Passover meal during the daylight hours of Nisan 13.




JW

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[Athetotheist]

On the first day of Unleavened Bread, when they sacrifice the Passover lamb, His disciples asked Him, “Where do You want us to go and prepare the Passover so You may eat it?” (Mark 14:12)

How could Jesus eat the last supper before the sacrificing of the passover lamb if the disciples didn't go out to prepare for the meal until the day the lambs were sacrificed?

It is generally accepted that by Jesus day the Passover (Sedar) meal and the 7 day public holiday merged for all intents and purposes and were spoken of under the same umbrelle term. (Rather like Christmas in the vernacular is spoken of as covering the entire holiday period not just the public holidays ). Thus Mark's time marker probably referred to the preparation of the Passover meal during the daylight hours of Nisan 13.

I was merely addressing the claim that the last supper, which is clearly referred to in the synoptics as a Passover meal, was eaten before the passover lambs were sacrificed.

What is "generally accepted" aside, Mark's time marker refers to the first day of unleavened bread as the day the lambs were sacrificed and refers to the same day as the day the disciples asked Jesus where to prepare the Passover. So Jesus would have to have eaten the last supper on that night, which would make it the Passover meal. So the last supper couldn't have been eaten before the Passover lambs were sacrificed.

[JehovahsWitness]

What is "generally accepted" aside, Mark's time marker refers to the first day of unleavened bread as the day the [sedar] lambs were sacrificed and refers to the same day as the day the disciples asked Jesus where to prepare the Passover. So Jesus would have to have eaten the last supper on that night, which would make it the Passover meal.

Yes, that is correct.

So the last supper couldn't have been eaten before the Passover [MEAL /sedar] lambs were sacrificed.

Yes, obviously ( refering to "the Passover lambs" of the Sedar)

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We agree on this. The question is, is there any indication that Passover was also (apparently) after the Thursday evening last supper, which was also (it is believed) the passover seder meal. There is no seder lamb but only bread and wine. But it's doctrinally taken as the Passover meal.

Damn' right away John 18 28-29 The priests would not enter the praetorium because it would defile them for the Passover. So Jesus was eating the passover on the Thursday before the lambs were killed apparently for the Passover which seems to have fallen on the Saturday.

I've seen this before as some apologists tried to argue that Jesus used a different (Pharisee) calendar and the Sadducees used the old one. But it misses the point. Jesus would be recognising a Passover by eating it before a Passover he recognises by being a Passover sacrifice for it.

[JehovahsWitness]

... Jesus would be recognising a Passover by eating it before a Passover he recognises by being a Passover sacrifice for it.

I'm not sure I understand your point; you'll have to be much more precise in your terminology

- The Passover meal (sedar) Nisan 14
- The sedar lamb
- The Passover festival of unleaven bread (15th )
- The festival lamb(s)
- The (Chrstian ) "last supper" ceremony

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Dude......

I don't believe you can't understand this. Let me draw you a map.

Wednesday Passover lambs sacrificed, I suppose.
Thursday, Disciples prepare for the Passover at the upper room. Passover meal in the evening.
Friday (we'd call it Thursday night) Jesus arrested at Gethsemane
Morning Trial before Pilate during the day. According to John, the Priests cannot enter the praetorium, because it would defile them for the Passover. Thus it appears the Passover isn't just yet - for them
Jesus crucified around the time the Passover lambs are being sacrificed.
Saturday Sabbath and (it would appear) the Passover meal is eaten that the High Priests were keeping themselves ritually pure for.
Sunday resurrection

Thus there appear (from John) to be two separate Passover meals, one on the Thursday and one on the Saturday sabbath.

[JehovahsWitness]

This ...

... Jesus would be recognising a Passover by eating it before a Passover he recognises by being a Passover sacrifice for it.

Was trying to say this ...

Thus there appear (from John) to be two separate Passover meals, one on the Thursday and one on the Saturday sabbath.

Okay if that is your point you're not far off. One Passover meal - followed by the 7 day Passovet festival. This is nothing new, its a matters'of documented history.

[Difflugia]

Thus there appear (from John) to be two separate Passover meals, one on the Thursday and one on the Saturday sabbath.

It's not that there were two Passover meals, it's that one of the traditions was wrong about which meal was the Passover. The Synoptics claim that it was the Last Supper (e.g. Matthew 26:17), but John explicitly says that the Last Supper wasn't the Passover (John 13:1).

[TRANSPONDER]

This ...

... Jesus would be recognising a Passover by eating it before a Passover he recognises by being a Passover sacrifice for it.

Was trying to say this ...

Thus there appear (from John) to be two separate Passover meals, one on the Thursday and one on the Saturday sabbath.

Okay if that is your point you're not far off. One Passover meal - followed by the 7 day Passovet festival. This is nothing new, its a matters'of documented history.

Don't you mean a matter of contradiction in the Gospels? Two supposed Passover feasts of different days. And Jesus apparently recognising both by eating one and being a sacrifice on the other.

Thus there appear (from John) to be two separate Passover meals, one on the Thursday and one on the Saturday sabbath.

It's not that there were two Passover meals, it's that one of the traditions was wrong about which meal was the Passover. The Synoptics claim that it was the Last Supper (e.g. Matthew 26:17), but John explicitly says that the Last Supper wasn't the Passover (John 13:1).

Nice. Yes of course, John can't see this bread and wine session as the Passover feast as he makes it clear that, next morning, the 'High Priests' were staying ritually pure for it. So we have a contradiction. The synoptics saying that the Thursday night was the Passover feast when the Passover lambs had already been topped and tailed. But John denied this and places the Passover after the Crucifixion, (1) probably with the Temple sacrifices being done as he was being crucified, and the Passover feast on the Saturday when he was in the tomb.

So it seems to go back to what I was saying, which is that John and the Synoptics have a disagreement about whether the Last supper was the Passover feast or not. There are maybe worse contradictions than that, but they really ought to agree on that if they had any claim to be regarded as accurate an reliable.

(1) I must have imagined there was a reference to the sacrifice of lambs, but John 19 14 says that it was the day of preparation for the Passover, which makes it clear that (for John) the Passover feast was eaten on the day after the crucifixion. And I just wonder whether this ritual 'sacrifice' occasioned Paul's ceremonial mantra and that was back - engineered into a screenplay of the last supper (which i suspect may have been the supper that Martha prepared on the day Jesus arrived from Jericho - if it was true at all) which is little more than making this the origin of this ceremonial saying plus the 'betrayal' (handing over to the powers of darkness, as Paul says) turned into a played out betrayal by one of Jesus' followers. Hypothetical, but it would clear up these puzzles.