If we can agree that bulls and lambs are insufficient propitiations for our sins then what makes Jesus a sufficient propitiation?
Especially if you think Jesus is a created being then what makes one created being sufficient and another insufficient?
If he is a human then how did he pull it off to not sin for 33 years? Was Jesus created perfect?
What is special about Jesus?
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What is special about Jesus?
Post #1Proverbs 18:17 The one who states his case first seems right, until the other comes and examines him.
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Re: What is special about Jesus?
Post #72As is Charlie Manson. Are you sure you want to use fame alone as the measure?
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Re: What is special about Jesus?
Post #74This doesn't address my question.
Charlie is famous.
Jesus is famous.
Are you sure you want to use fame alone as the measure?
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To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.
- American Atheists
Not believing isn't the same as believing not.
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I must assume that knowing is better than not knowing, venturing than not venturing; and that magic and illusion, however rich, however alluring, ultimately weaken the human spirit.
- Irvin D. Yalom
- American Atheists
Not believing isn't the same as believing not.
- wiploc
I must assume that knowing is better than not knowing, venturing than not venturing; and that magic and illusion, however rich, however alluring, ultimately weaken the human spirit.
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Re: What is special about Jesus?
Post #75I will use any measurement you put forth to me including fame.Tcg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 8:19 pmThis doesn't address my question.
Charlie is famous.
Jesus is famous.
Are you sure you want to use fame alone as the measure?
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Does this address your question to your satisfaction?
Yes or no?
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Re: What is special about Jesus?
Post #76Millions of people are more famous than any of us. Muhammad is more famous than any of us. So what?
George Orwell:: “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.”
Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
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Gender ideology is anti-science, anti truth.
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Re: What is special about Jesus?
Post #77So what are the odds that you will be as special as Muhammad as of being as famous?
I would have to say....0.
You are never going to be famous for anything.
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Re: What is special about Jesus?
Post #78[Replying to jimtatertayte in post #77]
Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make.
Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make.
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Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
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Re: What is special about Jesus?
Post #79Seeing that is too much of a stretch for you I will have to wait tillbrunumb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:03 pm [Replying to jimtatertayte in post #77]
Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make.
you increase in understanding so as to carry on this conversation with you.
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Re: What is special about Jesus?
Post #80This amounts to nothing more than an admission on your part that you can't support your claim. We see this quite often, posters who can't support their claims and blame others for their failure.jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:27 pmSeeing that is too much of a stretch for you I will have to wait tillbrunumb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:03 pm [Replying to jimtatertayte in post #77]
Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make.
you increase in understanding so as to carry on this conversation with you.
Tcg
To be clear: Atheism is not a disbelief in gods or a denial of gods; it is a lack of belief in gods.
- American Atheists
Not believing isn't the same as believing not.
- wiploc
I must assume that knowing is better than not knowing, venturing than not venturing; and that magic and illusion, however rich, however alluring, ultimately weaken the human spirit.
- Irvin D. Yalom
- American Atheists
Not believing isn't the same as believing not.
- wiploc
I must assume that knowing is better than not knowing, venturing than not venturing; and that magic and illusion, however rich, however alluring, ultimately weaken the human spirit.
- Irvin D. Yalom
