was Jesus the ceasar?

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sin_is_fun
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was Jesus the ceasar?

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Julius Caesar, son of Venus and founder of the Roman Empire, was elevated to the status of Imperial God, Divus Julius, after his violent death. The cult that surrounded him dissolved as Christianity surfaced.

A religion surrounding Jesus Christ, son of God and originator of Christianity, appeared during the second century. Early historians, however, never mentioned Jesus and even now there is no actual proof of his existence.

On the one hand, an actual historical figure missing his cult, on the other, a religion missing its actual historical figure: intriguing mirror images.

Is Jesus Christ really the historical manifestation of Divus Julius? Are the Gospels built on the life of Caesar, just as the first Christian churches were built on the foundations of antique temples?

Too many similarities between worlds most popular king and worlds most influential religious head emerge.Their words,their life, their life situations all look similiar.Read them on
http://www.carotta.de/subseite/texte/esumma.html

This thread material was got from the first page of that website.

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That there is more than one personnage with similar hagiographies surrounding him is not surprising, especially personnages of the same period. In a vast magesterial work like the Bible, you are liable to find similarities to just about anything. For example, that Judas and Junius Brutus play a similar role in their respective stories just shows what kinds of stories were repeated during that time in history.

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It's a strange thing to suggest that two contradistinctive characters were one and the same. Yes similarities exist between all kinds of histories of different men and women. But here the similarities are fewer than needed to be at all convincing.

Even among Jesus' followers who penned the New Testament, the distinction between these very individuals is made clear as day:

But they cried out, Away with [him], away with [him], crucify him. Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar. (John 19:15)

So even those who disbelieved Jesus' divinity were very sure he was not the same as Caesar and in fact regarded the latter above the former. To elaborate if it isn't totally obvious from the fact, it demonstrates that neither His followers nor his critics believed he was the same as Caesar.

Consider that according to what is said of Jesus in the New Testament:
~Jesus was mocked as "King of the Jews" (Mark 15:18 ) - a difficult epithet for a full blood Roman to achieve.
~He was seen as a threat to the Jewish leadership (because He was Jewish with authority) and a thorn to Roman magistrates
~He was wise in the Jewish Scriptures, beyond the Rabbis of His time (Matthew 7:29)
~He was deplored and rejected by most men, Jewish or otherwise (John 18:35)
~No formal establishment or institution stood behind him

So was Jesus actually Caesar? I think it requires a lofty imagination to explain away Jesus in this manner. Well, I guess there's nothing new about it. It's certainly no worse than the other theories.

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