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What if beings from some far end of space were to visit the Earth? What would the Christian response be?

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DanMRaymond wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:27 pm What if beings from some far end of space were to visit the Earth? What would the Christian response be?
If they had read the OT, they would know that the heavenly watcher were here from the beginning, and apparently bred with the daughters of men, producing the men of renown (Genesis). The flood during the time of Noah was supposed to have wiped out the mixed breed and evil, but as they were sons of the "heavenly watchers", and their spirits cannot die (Enoch), and you are left with spirit demons. Apparently giants have existed throughout history, and if you look at modern archeology, ancient science and monuments have been around for a longer time than currently taught. The large Egyptian pyramid gives the dimensions of the earth, pi, the golden cut, log e, as well as the speed of light, and was not a burial place built around 5000 years ago, but built much earlier, and is a message.
If you read the writings of early Sumerians, the predecessors of Babylon the Great, the "heavenly watchers"/gods, preceded men for a long time.

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2ndpillar2 wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:29 pm
DanMRaymond wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:27 pm What if beings from some far end of space were to visit the Earth? What would the Christian response be?
If they had read the OT, they would know that the heavenly watcher were here from the beginning, and apparently bred with the daughters of men, producing the men of renown (Genesis). The flood during the time of Noah was supposed to have wiped out the mixed breed and evil, but as they were sons of the "heavenly watchers", and their spirits cannot die (Enoch), and you are left with spirit demons. Apparently giants have existed throughout history, and if you look at modern archeology, ancient science and monuments have been around for a longer time than currently taught. The large Egyptian pyramid gives the dimensions of the earth, pi, the golden cut, log e, as well as the speed of light, and was not a burial place built around 5000 years ago, but built much earlier, and is a message.
If you read the writings of early Sumerians, the predecessors of Babylon the Great, the "heavenly watchers"/gods, preceded men for a long time.
One can appreciate the possibility that all human gods are not The Creator. Adding the idea that "heavenly watchers" are a diabolical breed simply because those who witnessed them, most often reacted in an unseemly manner, does not an actual demon, make.

So one should take care to acknowledge that what we call them, has consequence.

And, as I have mentioned - our first consideration is that the beings are a product of The Earth, as being more likely than being products of some other planet...Reptilian...as we know The Earth first produced The Great Reptiles.

So in that yes - as I also mentioned, one is tempted to call "demons" in relation to looks and human reaction to encounters, but one may be jumping the gun and lead by the fearful imaginations of the forefathers of humanity who instilled their word into us.


But yes - certainly - let us neither call them "God". Let us not call any image [real or imagined] "God".

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William wrote: Fri Jul 16, 2021 1:30 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Thu Jul 15, 2021 6:29 pm
DanMRaymond wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2005 2:27 pm What if beings from some far end of space were to visit the Earth? What would the Christian response be?
If they had read the OT, they would know that the heavenly watcher were here from the beginning, and apparently bred with the daughters of men, producing the men of renown (Genesis). The flood during the time of Noah was supposed to have wiped out the mixed breed and evil, but as they were sons of the "heavenly watchers", and their spirits cannot die (Enoch), and you are left with spirit demons. Apparently giants have existed throughout history, and if you look at modern archeology, ancient science and monuments have been around for a longer time than currently taught. The large Egyptian pyramid gives the dimensions of the earth, pi, the golden cut, log e, as well as the speed of light, and was not a burial place built around 5000 years ago, but built much earlier, and is a message.
If you read the writings of early Sumerians, the predecessors of Babylon the Great, the "heavenly watchers"/gods, preceded men for a long time.
One can appreciate the possibility that all human gods are not The Creator. Adding the idea that "heavenly watchers" are a diabolical breed simply because those who witnessed them, most often reacted in an unseemly manner, does not an actual demon, make.

So one should take care to acknowledge that what we call them, has consequence.

And, as I have mentioned - our first consideration is that the beings are a product of The Earth, as being more likely than being products of some other planet...Reptilian...as we know The Earth first produced The Great Reptiles.

So in that yes - as I also mentioned, one is tempted to call "demons" in relation to looks and human reaction to encounters, but one may be jumping the gun and lead by the fearful imaginations of the forefathers of humanity who instilled their word into us.


But yes - certainly - let us neither call them "God". Let us not call any image [real or imagined] "God".

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The heavenly watchers are not described as a "diabolical breed". According to Genesis 6, the "heavenly watchers" were sons of God who simply took "daughters of men" to produce "men of renown". According to Enoch, when these "men of renown" died their spirits became what are now the demon spirits. Apparently these unclean spirits are able to take up an abode in weak men and swine. According to Revelation 16:12-16, these unclean spirits are to make signs for the false prophet, the beast and the devil to prepare for the battle of the great day of God. (Har-Magedon)

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2ndpillar2 wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:40 pm
The heavenly watchers are not described as a "diabolical breed". According to Genesis 6, the "heavenly watchers" were sons of God who simply took "daughters of men" to produce "men of renown". According to Enoch, when these "men of renown" died their spirits became what are now the demon spirits. Apparently these unclean spirits are able to take up an abode in weak men and swine. According to Revelation 16:12-16, these unclean spirits are to make signs for the false prophet, the beast and the devil to prepare for the battle of the great day of God. (Har-Magedon)
The OP asks about real beings from the far end of space, not mythological beings from some imagined spirit world.


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Tcg wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:35 am
2ndpillar2 wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:40 pm
The heavenly watchers are not described as a "diabolical breed". According to Genesis 6, the "heavenly watchers" were sons of God who simply took "daughters of men" to produce "men of renown". According to Enoch, when these "men of renown" died their spirits became what are now the demon spirits. Apparently these unclean spirits are able to take up an abode in weak men and swine. According to Revelation 16:12-16, these unclean spirits are to make signs for the false prophet, the beast and the devil to prepare for the battle of the great day of God. (Har-Magedon)
The OP asks about real beings from the far end of space, not mythological beings from some imagined spirit world.


Tcg
The government's acquiescence to the so called presence of UFOs followed the funding bill sneaked in by Senator Harry Reid before his departure for la la land. The present timing seems more like a PSYOP by the deep state. The New Mexico UFO event had ties to the Nazi organization in Argentina, the same Nazi party which provided all the scientist to run NASA, and the same Nazi party which supplied all their intelligence officers to fill the ranks of our CIA, an intrinsic part of the deep state. The saucer type design has scientific references to previous working designs, which were most likely combined with dark energy use, the same type of dark energy sought in Bern Switzerland for time transport and energy production. Ian Fleming, a one time British spy, had such a vehicle shown in one of his 007 movies, in which referred to the deep state players as Spector.
They are best known today as the World Economic Council, which recently met in Idaho, and had Bill Gates tell them how everything might be hacked, therefore, no power, no credit cards, no transportation, or working gas pumps, or groceries with stocked food. The elites couldn't crash the world with their virus, which was mentioned in their 2019 meeting, nor with their up to date hacking, which is not finished, but they have plan C prepped with so called aliens to foster the next crisis, in which to introduce the next New World Order, a phrase taken from the title of a book written by George Orwell, and next used by the Nazi, Hitler himself. For aliens to get here, they would have to use time travel, black hole technology, which is the present task of Bern Switzerland, who reportedly store antimatter, a key ingredient in producing unlimited energy, plus accessing other dimensions. Those dimensions would include what is known as demons, or what you prefer to call aliens.
The Nazi Bormann was sent to Argentina to buy 150,000 acres after WWII, and start a hidden Nazi state with the treasure stolen from Europe. The Church of Rome smuggled Nazis out of Europe as priests. The church is involved in the deep state as part of the Rosicrucian Order, in that they purport to have hidden knowledge, and would probably be best to rule the world, not necessarily as Christ's representative on earth. The Rosicrucian order likes to ingrain themselves in positions of power. Supposedly the Argentina Nazis had landed a weird craft in New Mexico before the noted UFO crash had happened.

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2ndpillar2 wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:23 pm
Tcg wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:35 am
2ndpillar2 wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:40 pm
The heavenly watchers are not described as a "diabolical breed". According to Genesis 6, the "heavenly watchers" were sons of God who simply took "daughters of men" to produce "men of renown". According to Enoch, when these "men of renown" died their spirits became what are now the demon spirits. Apparently these unclean spirits are able to take up an abode in weak men and swine. According to Revelation 16:12-16, these unclean spirits are to make signs for the false prophet, the beast and the devil to prepare for the battle of the great day of God. (Har-Magedon)
The OP asks about real beings from the far end of space, not mythological beings from some imagined spirit world.


Tcg
The government's acquiescence to the so called presence of UFOs followed the funding bill sneaked in by Senator Harry Reid before his departure for la la land. The present timing seems more like a PSYOP by the deep state. The New Mexico UFO event had ties to the Nazi organization in Argentina, the same Nazi party which provided all the scientist to run NASA, and the same Nazi party which supplied all their intelligence officers to fill the ranks of our CIA, an intrinsic part of the deep state. The saucer type design has scientific references to previous working designs, which were most likely combined with dark energy use, the same type of dark energy sought in Bern Switzerland for time transport and energy production. Ian Fleming, a one time British spy, had such a vehicle shown in one of his 007 movies, in which referred to the deep state players as Spector.
They are best known today as the World Economic Council, which recently met in Idaho, and had Bill Gates tell them how everything might be hacked, therefore, no power, no credit cards, no transportation, or working gas pumps, or groceries with stocked food. The elites couldn't crash the world with their virus, which was mentioned in their 2019 meeting, nor with their up to date hacking, which is not finished, but they have plan C prepped with so called aliens to foster the next crisis, in which to introduce the next New World Order, a phrase taken from the title of a book written by George Orwell, and next used by the Nazi, Hitler himself. For aliens to get here, they would have to use time travel, black hole technology, which is the present task of Bern Switzerland, who reportedly store antimatter, a key ingredient in producing unlimited energy, plus accessing other dimensions. Those dimensions would include what is known as demons, or what you prefer to call aliens.
The Nazi Bormann was sent to Argentina to buy 150,000 acres after WWII, and start a hidden Nazi state with the treasure stolen from Europe. The Church of Rome smuggled Nazis out of Europe as priests. The church is involved in the deep state as part of the Rosicrucian Order, in that they purport to have hidden knowledge, and would probably be best to rule the world, not necessarily as Christ's representative on earth. The Rosicrucian order likes to ingrain themselves in positions of power. Supposedly the Argentina Nazis had landed a weird craft in New Mexico before the noted UFO crash had happened.
That's quite a string of claims. Which, if any, can you support with verifiable evidence?


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Tcg wrote: Fri Jul 30, 2021 3:15 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:23 pm
Tcg wrote: Mon Jul 26, 2021 11:35 am
2ndpillar2 wrote: Sun Jul 25, 2021 6:40 pm
The heavenly watchers are not described as a "diabolical breed". According to Genesis 6, the "heavenly watchers" were sons of God who simply took "daughters of men" to produce "men of renown". According to Enoch, when these "men of renown" died their spirits became what are now the demon spirits. Apparently these unclean spirits are able to take up an abode in weak men and swine. According to Revelation 16:12-16, these unclean spirits are to make signs for the false prophet, the beast and the devil to prepare for the battle of the great day of God. (Har-Magedon)
The OP asks about real beings from the far end of space, not mythological beings from some imagined spirit world.


Tcg
The government's acquiescence to the so called presence of UFOs followed the funding bill sneaked in by Senator Harry Reid before his departure for la la land. The present timing seems more like a PSYOP by the deep state. The New Mexico UFO event had ties to the Nazi organization in Argentina, the same Nazi party which provided all the scientist to run NASA, and the same Nazi party which supplied all their intelligence officers to fill the ranks of our CIA, an intrinsic part of the deep state. The saucer type design has scientific references to previous working designs, which were most likely combined with dark energy use, the same type of dark energy sought in Bern Switzerland for time transport and energy production. Ian Fleming, a one time British spy, had such a vehicle shown in one of his 007 movies, in which referred to the deep state players as Spector.
They are best known today as the World Economic Council, which recently met in Idaho, and had Bill Gates tell them how everything might be hacked, therefore, no power, no credit cards, no transportation, or working gas pumps, or groceries with stocked food. The elites couldn't crash the world with their virus, which was mentioned in their 2019 meeting, nor with their up to date hacking, which is not finished, but they have plan C prepped with so called aliens to foster the next crisis, in which to introduce the next New World Order, a phrase taken from the title of a book written by George Orwell, and next used by the Nazi, Hitler himself. For aliens to get here, they would have to use time travel, black hole technology, which is the present task of Bern Switzerland, who reportedly store antimatter, a key ingredient in producing unlimited energy, plus accessing other dimensions. Those dimensions would include what is known as demons, or what you prefer to call aliens.
The Nazi Bormann was sent to Argentina to buy 150,000 acres after WWII, and start a hidden Nazi state with the treasure stolen from Europe. The Church of Rome smuggled Nazis out of Europe as priests. The church is involved in the deep state as part of the Rosicrucian Order, in that they purport to have hidden knowledge, and would probably be best to rule the world, not necessarily as Christ's representative on earth. The Rosicrucian order likes to ingrain themselves in positions of power. Supposedly the Argentina Nazis had landed a weird craft in New Mexico before the noted UFO crash had happened.
That's quite a string of claims. Which, if any, can you support with verifiable evidence?


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You might try using google. You type in the topic, and you get a list of references. That way you do your own verification. On the other hand, you can remain in your own box.

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You might try using google. You type in the topic, and you get a list of references. That way you do your own verification. On the other hand, you can remain in your own box.
Google is a search engine that ranks the links it presents according to its algorithms for whatever search terms are entered. It is very easy to get links to conspiracy theories, and nonsense like flat earth, for example. The phrase "I saw it on the internet so it must be true" is a joke for good reason.

If I did have any interest in pursuing the claims you made and "Google" those subjects, and I find more debunking links than supporting links (likely, I expect), should I conclude that they are false simply because Google provided more links on one side than the other?
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DrNoGods wrote: Sun Aug 01, 2021 10:43 pm [Replying to 2ndpillar2 in post #90]
You might try using google. You type in the topic, and you get a list of references. That way you do your own verification. On the other hand, you can remain in your own box.
Google is a search engine that ranks the links it presents according to its algorithms for whatever search terms are entered. It is very easy to get links to conspiracy theories, and nonsense like flat earth, for example. The phrase "I saw it on the internet so it must be true" is a joke for good reason.

If I did have any interest in pursuing the claims you made and "Google" those subjects, and I find more debunking links than supporting links (likely, I expect), should I conclude that they are false simply because Google provided more links on one side than the other?
Well, you could either check the sources, such as the New York Times, and then reject the source as "fake news", or find a more reliable source, or in the alternative reality, live in your own vacuous bubble. People in western civilization, in the past, generally have had choices, and apparently, not all choices were good.

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