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The Christian-Homosexual Connection

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As you may have heard in recent times, pedophiliac priests are raping altar boys at an alarming rate. Why are priests such a large group?

It has been suggested by some professors that psychological effects of religion can lead to repressed sexual desires, thus causing chemical imbalances that result in sexual deviation. Your thoughts?

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What is "rape"?

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Four types of rapists have been identified, based on their motivations and behavior patterns. These categories were first described by Dr. A. Nicholas Groth, author of Men Who Rape: The Psychology of the Offender. United States federal and state law enforcement use these categories to prevent rapes and catch rapists.

* The power-assertive rapist: The fun kind! This is arguably the most common type of rapist and responsible for most date rapes. This individual tends to be athletic and macho and usually meets his victims in places like bars, though he can also con his way into a victim's home by posing as a police officer or repairman. He is physically aggressive enough to control his victim but does not intend to kill. He likes to degrade and traumatize his victims. His motive is opportunity based, meaning he doesn't specifically single out victims. This person usually has average or above average intelligence and usually has the presence of mind to avoid leaving evidence and does not take trophies. This type statistically accounts for approximately 40 percent of all rapes.

* The power-reassurance rapist: The quiet ones. This individual lacks the social skills to develop relationships with women. He is not athletic or aggressive. Unlike the type mentioned above, this type actually does select and stalk his victim. Usually his victim lives or works within the same area he lives or works. He may try to engage in a fantasy by forcing his victim to emulate foreplay. He usually does not leave evidence but he may take trophies of his "conquests" and may even record them in a diary. This person usually has normal intelligence. It is often found that this individual has conscious doubts of his masculinity. This is the least violent type of rapist and does not intend to injure or kill his victim. Law officers sometimes call him the "gentleman rapist." He has a complex fantasy of a consensual relationship with a woman. This type statistically accounts for approximately 27.5 percent of all rapes.

* Anger-retaliatory rapist: Angry irish drunkard! This individual is often a substance abuser and is characterized by impulsive behavior and an explosive temper. Like the power-assertive type his motive is based on opportunity and he does not typically single out specific victims. This individual feels animosity toward women in general and his attack is typically spontaneous and brutal. Though, this attacker does not aim to kill his victim, he may beat the victim to death should she resist or fail to escape. This rapist is one of the most likely to leave evidence at the scene of the crime, and typically has below average intelligence. This type statistically accounts for approximately 28 percent of all rapes.

* The anger-excitation rapist: Happy go lucky type! This is the most dangerous and elusive type of rapist. He is usually charming and intelligent, capable of planning the abduction and concealment of his victims. His motive may be selective or opportunity based. Once he has control of a victim, it is very unlikely that she will escape with her life. He is sadistic and after days of torture he may kill his victim to prevent the woman from identifying him, or for his sexual gratification. This type accounts for approximately 4.5 percent of all rapes.

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Iconoclast wrote: It has been suggested by some professors that psychological effects of religion can lead to repressed sexual desires, thus causing chemical imbalances that result in sexual deviation. Your thoughts?
Could be. But, the main group in question are Catholic priests. If religion itself leads to chemical imbalances, then a larger set of religious people would be sexually deviant, not just Catholic priests.

What would be the cause would not be religion itself, but some attribute common to priests. And I would say it's the burden of placing all Catholic priests under the requirement of celibacy. Some may have the gift of celibacy, but requiring all to be celibate is too repressive and leads to deviancy.

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otseng wrote:
Iconoclast wrote: It has been suggested by some professors that psychological effects of religion can lead to repressed sexual desires, thus causing chemical imbalances that result in sexual deviation. Your thoughts?
Could be. But, the main group in question are Catholic priests. If religion itself leads to chemical imbalances, then a larger set of religious people would be sexually deviant, not just Catholic priests.

What would be the cause would not be religion itself, but some attribute common to priests. And I would say it's the burden of placing all Catholic priests under the requirement of celibacy. Some may have the gift of celibacy, but requiring all to be celibate is too repressive and leads to deviancy.
It is well known that Catholics are more religious than other sects of Christianity. The more religious one is, the more likely they are to engage in devious acts that cause harm to the children of today.

http://www.kensmen.com/catholic/clergysexabuse.html

An interesting link if I do say so myself.

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Iconoclast wrote: The more religious one is, the more likely they are to engage in devious acts that cause harm to the children of today.
Please support this statement with some evidence or logic.

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otseng wrote:
Iconoclast wrote: The more religious one is, the more likely they are to engage in devious acts that cause harm to the children of today.
Please support this statement with some evidence or logic.
Simple. Hundreds of years ago people were generally more religious, correct? I think you would agree. Strangely enough, there were torture devices, such as anal pears or judas chairs that involved the anal region of the human body. Why the anal region? well, it seems that homosexual sex also is strongly concerned with the anal region....

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Iconoclast wrote:
otseng wrote:
Iconoclast wrote: The more religious one is, the more likely they are to engage in devious acts that cause harm to the children of today.
Please support this statement with some evidence or logic.
Simple. Hundreds of years ago people were generally more religious, correct? I think you would agree. Strangely enough, there were torture devices, such as anal pears or judas chairs that involved the anal region of the human body. Why the anal region? well, it seems that homosexual sex also is strongly concerned with the anal region....
You'll have to do better than that to support your argument.

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otseng wrote:
Iconoclast wrote:
otseng wrote:
Iconoclast wrote: The more religious one is, the more likely they are to engage in devious acts that cause harm to the children of today.
Please support this statement with some evidence or logic.
Simple. Hundreds of years ago people were generally more religious, correct? I think you would agree. Strangely enough, there were torture devices, such as anal pears or judas chairs that involved the anal region of the human body. Why the anal region? well, it seems that homosexual sex also is strongly concerned with the anal region....
You'll have to do better than that to support your argument.
Because you cannot find any falsehoods in my argument?

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Iconoclast wrote:
Simple. Hundreds of years ago people were generally more religious, correct? I think you would agree. Strangely enough, there were torture devices, such as anal pears or judas chairs that involved the anal region of the human body. Why the anal region? well, it seems that homosexual sex also is strongly concerned with the anal region....
Because you cannot find any falsehoods in my argument?
This is the statement you are trying to prove.
The more religious one is, the more likely they are to engage in devious acts that cause harm to the children of today.
How does how people act hundreds of years ago have anything to do with how people act today?

What is the connection with torture and religous people? It's not only religious people that torture. It can be just as well that nonreligious people are linked to homosexuality.

What is the connection between torture of certain body parts with homosexuality? People torture others parts of the body too. Does that mean they are heterosexual deviants?

Furthermore, because one small samping of a group might do something, it is not representative of an entire group.

Also, what are some supporting evidence for your claims?

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