Here is a theory about God everyone can agree on and prove.
God died sometime after 1480, he was slain by the combined forces of Death and Satan, whom he threatened to overcome.
These two powerful and subtle forces ensured God was the cause of his own destruction. He never even saw it coming.
Now, why we can all agree on this is:
1. There have been no miracles since Joan of Arc.
2. We can now all agree God does not exist.
3. Death still persists, unvanquished.
4. Evil still exists.
5. This fits all available data.
Am I wrong?
A theory about God everyone can agree on
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Post #2Many people claim that there have been miracles even in modern times.Willum wrote: 1. There have been no miracles since Joan of Arc.
Bible tells God is love. I can’t say love doesn’t exist, because I know love.Willum wrote:2. We can now all agree God does not exist.
He who doesn't love doesn't know God, for God is love.
1 John 4:8
I have not died, so I can’t say death persists.Willum wrote:3. Death still persists, unvanquished.
That seems to be true, in many people.Willum wrote:4. Evil still exists.
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Post #3[Replying to post 2 by 1213]
I think we all miss him.
Yes, but those are by people diagnosed as mentally ill, or charlatans.Many people claim that there have been miracles even in modern times.
I agree, but that is certainly a (non-sexually) romantic statement, with no application, other then God's former genuine feelings, to speak of.Bible tells God is love. I can’t say love doesn’t exist, because I know love.
I think we all miss him.
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Post #4LOL!!!Willum wrote: Here is a theory about God everyone can agree on and prove.
God died sometime after 1480, he was slain by the combined forces of Death and Satan, whom he threatened to overcome.
These two powerful and subtle forces ensured God was the cause of his own destruction. He never even saw it coming.
Now, why we can all agree on this is:
1. There have been no miracles since Joan of Arc.
2. We can now all agree God does not exist.
3. Death still persists, unvanquished.
4. Evil still exists.
5. This fits all available data.
Am I wrong?
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thanks to modern atheistic science, suffering is lessening
Post #6Assuming you mean Biblical miracles, then they are possible, but they appear to be unlikely in the extreme.Willum wrote: Now, why we can all agree on this is:
1. There have been no miracles since Joan of Arc.
2. We can now all agree God does not exist.
3. Death still persists, unvanquished.
4. Evil still exists.
5. This fits all available data.
Am I wrong?
Obviously, there is little agreement regarding the existence of TIMITS. While the idea of TIMITS is absurd, and it is foolish to believe, many people still insist TIMITS is real.
Death, of course, is as real as it ever was, and it takes out everybody regardless of what they believe.
Evil may or may not exist depending on what you mean by "evil." If you mean suffering, then obviously evil still exists. However, thanks to modern atheistic science, suffering is on the wane.
It appears that your theory is impossible to prove or falsify, but it's probably wrong. We have no evidence for any gods.Here is a theory about God everyone can agree on and prove.
God died sometime after 1480, he was slain by the combined forces of Death and Satan, whom he threatened to overcome.
These two powerful and subtle forces ensured God was the cause of his own destruction. He never even saw it coming.
Re: A theory about God everyone can agree on
Post #7I assume you find the following to be laughable:PinSeeker wrote:LOL!!!Willum wrote: Here is a theory about God everyone can agree on and prove.
God died sometime after 1480, he was slain by the combined forces of Death and Satan, whom he threatened to overcome.
These two powerful and subtle forces ensured God was the cause of his own destruction. He never even saw it coming.
Now, why we can all agree on this is:
1. There have been no miracles since Joan of Arc.
2. We can now all agree God does not exist.
3. Death still persists, unvanquished.
4. Evil still exists.
5. This fits all available data.
Am I wrong?
While I agree that to posit such a scenario is silly and on a par with the story of Peter Pan, your own beliefs are much like Willum's theory. So why should I laugh at Willum's story and take your beliefs seriously?Here is a theory about God everyone can agree on and prove.
God died sometime after 1480, he was slain by the combined forces of Death and Satan, whom he threatened to overcome.
These two powerful and subtle forces ensured God was the cause of his own destruction. He never even saw it coming.
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Post #8Because he didn't mean it in a serious light. He meant it in a humorous light, albeit probably dark humor, and I found it funny in the sense that he meant it. It's okay to laugh when somebody makes a funny, Jagella.Jagella wrote:I assume you find the following to be laughable:PinSeeker wrote:LOL!!!Willum wrote: Here is a theory about God everyone can agree on and prove.
God died sometime after 1480, he was slain by the combined forces of Death and Satan, whom he threatened to overcome.
These two powerful and subtle forces ensured God was the cause of his own destruction. He never even saw it coming.
Now, why we can all agree on this is:
1. There have been no miracles since Joan of Arc.
2. We can now all agree God does not exist.
3. Death still persists, unvanquished.
4. Evil still exists.
5. This fits all available data.
Am I wrong?
While I agree that to posit such a scenario is silly and on a par with the story of Peter Pan, your own beliefs are much like Willum's theory. So why should I laugh at Willum's story and take your beliefs seriously?Here is a theory about God everyone can agree on and prove.
God died sometime after 1480, he was slain by the combined forces of Death and Satan, whom he threatened to overcome.
These two powerful and subtle forces ensured God was the cause of his own destruction. He never even saw it coming.
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Post #9[Replying to post 6 by Jagella]
Well, they were documented and everyone believed the miracles, so it is safe to concede the point.
Just as it is safe to
We have alleged testimony to the miracles of TIMITS, so we can accept their word. But we don't have any objective miracles since Joan.
I have no objective reason to believe a 14 year old girl could lead armies to victory like that with out some kind of help, and she claimed divine influence.
But we have nothing after that. It seems to me, the theory fits all data, arguable and inarguable, so I find you skepticism a little harsh - is there anything it does not explain?
Well, they were documented and everyone believed the miracles, so it is safe to concede the point.
Just as it is safe to
For the sake of argument, we can believe that TIMITS existed, but no longer does.It appears that your theory is impossible to prove or falsify, but it's probably wrong. We have no evidence for any gods.
We have alleged testimony to the miracles of TIMITS, so we can accept their word. But we don't have any objective miracles since Joan.
I have no objective reason to believe a 14 year old girl could lead armies to victory like that with out some kind of help, and she claimed divine influence.
But we have nothing after that. It seems to me, the theory fits all data, arguable and inarguable, so I find you skepticism a little harsh - is there anything it does not explain?
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Post #10Well, I just don't see why it might be impossible for a girl to lead armies to victory. Give her credit for what she did. It's unlikely that TIMITS was helping her because she was burnt at the stake. What kind of help was that?Willum wrote: [Replying to post 6 by Jagella]
Well, they were documented and everyone believed the miracles, so it is safe to concede the point.
Just as it is safe to
For the sake of argument, we can believe that TIMITS existed, but no longer does.It appears that your theory is impossible to prove or falsify, but it's probably wrong. We have no evidence for any gods.
We have alleged testimony to the miracles of TIMITS, so we can accept their word. But we don't have any objective miracles since Joan.
I have no objective reason to believe a 14 year old girl could lead armies to victory like that with out some kind of help, and she claimed divine influence.
But we have nothing after that. It seems to me, the theory fits all data, arguable and inarguable, so I find you skepticism a little harsh - is there anything it does not explain?