Are we living in the last days?

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Are we living in the last days?

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JehovahsWitness wrote: From speaking with my brothers and sister, far from undermining our faith and causing confusion, the impact of coronavirus only serves to strengthen our conviction we are living in the last days and our resolve to preach the good news of the kingdom before the Lord tells us the work is complete.
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brunumb wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:34 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Mon Oct 18, 2021 8:15 am This is in line with the "last days", as in the "tribulation", whereas nations arise against each others, people will hate one another, "false prophets" arise, such as John Kerry who prophesized the end of the world per global warming, which has now been changed to "climate change", since the world hasn't warmed for over 18 years, despite rises in CO2 levels.
It's not in line with anything since your claim is patently false.

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https://www.climate.gov/news-features/u ... emperature
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Earth’s temperature has risen by 0.14° F (0.08° C) per decade since 1880, and the rate of warming over the past 40 years is more than twice that: 0.32° F (0.18° C) per decade since 1981.
2020 was the second-warmest year on record based on NOAA’s temperature data, and land areas were record warm.
Averaged across land and ocean, the 2020 surface temperature was 1.76° F (0.98° Celsius) warmer than the twentieth-century average of 57.0°F (13.9°C) and 2.14˚F (1.19˚C) warmer than the pre-industrial period (1880-1900).
Despite a late-year La Niña event that cooled a wide swath of the tropical Pacific Ocean, 2020 came just 0.04˚ Fahrenheit (0.02˚Celsius) shy of tying 2016 for warmest year on record.
The 10 warmest years on record have occurred since 2005.
From 1900 to 1980 a new temperature record was set on average every 13.5 years; from 1981–2019, a new record was set every 3 years.
Leave out the preceding part of that chart, prior to 1880, and change the temperature collection methods, and you can deceive those who dwell on the earth.

As for what is "science", according to the Scientist Richard Feyman is: "Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts". The prime example is Dr. Fauci, the new fear driver leader.

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2ndpillar2 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:21 amThe prime example is Dr. Fauci, the new fear driver leader.
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2ndpillar2 wrote: Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:21 am Leave out the preceding part of that chart, prior to 1880, and change the temperature collection methods, and you can deceive those who dwell on the earth.
The facts speak for themselves, but naturally the science-deniers with their own agenda don't want to listen. Their particular talent is in obfuscation and appealing to the scientifically illiterate who often like to see themselves as being somehow specially enlightened.
George Orwell:: “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.”
Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
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"You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for these things must take place, but the end is not yet." - Matt 24:6
Is the war in the Ukraine in the middle of a pandemic evidence that we are in the last days?

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2timothy316 wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:32 pm "You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for these things must take place, but the end is not yet." - Matt 24:6
Is the war in the Ukraine in the middle of a pandemic evidence that we are in the last days?
No, Jesus said the exact opposite of that. Jesus said that these things (wars and rumors of wars) must take place, but the end is not yet.
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bjs1 wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:06 pm
2timothy316 wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:32 pm "You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for these things must take place, but the end is not yet." - Matt 24:6
Is the war in the Ukraine in the middle of a pandemic evidence that we are in the last days?
No, Jesus said the exact opposite of that. Jesus said that these things (wars and rumors of wars) must take place, but the end is not yet.
This post is not in line with the OP. It's not about the end but the last days. Meaning the last days before the end. So your 'no' is moot.

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2timothy316 wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:32 pm "You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for these things must take place, but the end is not yet." - Matt 24:6
Is the war in the Ukraine in the middle of a pandemic evidence that we are in the last days?
If you think so, is it is up to you to support your assertion. Asking a question rather than providing evidence isn't a convincing argument. Relying on a Bible quote is this sub-forum is also a fail. What else have you?


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Tcg wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 11:17 pm
2timothy316 wrote: Mon Mar 07, 2022 9:32 pm "You are going to hear of wars and reports of wars. See that you are not alarmed, for these things must take place, but the end is not yet." - Matt 24:6
Is the war in the Ukraine in the middle of a pandemic evidence that we are in the last days?
If you think so, is it is up to you to support your assertion. Asking a question rather than providing evidence isn't a convincing argument. Relying on a Bible quote is this sub-forum is also a fail. What else have you?


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I have some news for you. :) The Bible is NOT the authority here, if ever it was. People may claim to believe it, or someof it orin a version of it that exists in their own heads.

Others can say they don't believe it, or not enough of it to accept the religious claims. And theirviews are as valid on the forum as anyone elses'.

I'd say more so as the arguments tend to go their way, in my experience.

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TRANSPONDER wrote: Tue Mar 08, 2022 7:21 pm I have some news for you. :) The Bible is NOT the authority here, if ever it was. People may claim to believe it, or someof it orin a version of it that exists in their own heads.

Others can say they don't believe it, or not enough of it to accept the religious claims. And theirviews are as valid on the forum as anyone elses'.

I'd say more so as the arguments tend to go their way, in my experience.
Ah yes. I forgot this is the only thread I watch in the 1883 wild west forum AKA the C&A forum.

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