Are we living in the last days?

[otseng]

From speaking with my brothers and sister, far from undermining our faith and causing confusion, the impact of coronavirus only serves to strengthen our conviction we are living in the last days and our resolve to preach the good news of the kingdom before the Lord tells us the work is complete.

For debate:
Are we living in the last days?

[Tcg]

75% of women attest to have been pressured into having an abortion, and most of them believed it was wrong.

That's an astounding claim. Can you present any verifiable evidence to support it?


Tcg

A study in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/study ... pressured/

It wasn't 75% of all women but 75% of women with a history of abortions and involved a very limited number. Your wording was designed to make it sound a lot worse than necessary. But that still doesn't do anything to mitigate the abysmal failure of God to protect the unborn when around 75% of all conceptions fail to reach term without any human intervention. Is God the ultimate abortionist or just a failed, unintelligent designer?

My wording was taken from a professional review.

Then it was a professional review that was both inaccurate and misleading.


Tcg

[2ndpillar2]

75% of women attest to have been pressured into having an abortion, and most of them believed it was wrong.

That's an astounding claim. Can you present any verifiable evidence to support it?


Tcg

A study in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/study ... pressured/

It wasn't 75% of all women but 75% of women with a history of abortions and involved a very limited number. Your wording was designed to make it sound a lot worse than necessary. But that still doesn't do anything to mitigate the abysmal failure of God to protect the unborn when around 75% of all conceptions fail to reach term without any human intervention. Is God the ultimate abortionist or just a failed, unintelligent designer?

My wording was taken from a professional review.

Then it was a professional review that was both inaccurate and misleading.

Tcg

I was thinking that is was your skewed summation which was misleading, and inaccurate. Anyone can read the study themselves and come up with their own conclusions. Those that consider themselves superior to god, can manipulate the language to cover their sins (George Orwell's 1984). The difference between 1984 and 2021, is that Winston Smith will win in the present battle, and Big Brother (big government) will go down in defeat.

[Tcg]

75% of women attest to have been pressured into having an abortion, and most of them believed it was wrong.

That's an astounding claim. Can you present any verifiable evidence to support it?


Tcg

A study in the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/study ... pressured/

It wasn't 75% of all women but 75% of women with a history of abortions and involved a very limited number. Your wording was designed to make it sound a lot worse than necessary. But that still doesn't do anything to mitigate the abysmal failure of God to protect the unborn when around 75% of all conceptions fail to reach term without any human intervention. Is God the ultimate abortionist or just a failed, unintelligent designer?

My wording was taken from a professional review.

Then it was a professional review that was both inaccurate and misleading.

Tcg

I was thinking that is was your skewed summation which was misleading, and inaccurate.

My summation was based on a direct quote from the source you provided. In what way did you find it misleading and inaccurate?


Tcg

[brunumb]

As for a real life analysis of the tribulation, such as pestilence, of the "last days", look at the Progressive areas which promote abortion and lawlessness, such as California, with its power outages, fires, lack of water resources, high taxes, lost industry, lost population, lawlessness, etc.

How do power outages, fires, lack of water resources, high taxes, lost industry, lost population, lawlessness, etc. promote abortion?

[2ndpillar2]

As for a real life analysis of the tribulation, such as pestilence, of the "last days", look at the Progressive areas which promote abortion and lawlessness, such as California, with its power outages, fires, lack of water resources, high taxes, lost industry, lost population, lawlessness, etc.

How do power outages, fires, lack of water resources, high taxes, lost industry, lost population, lawlessness, etc. promote abortion?

Abortion, produces judgment, of which draughts, floods, degradation of society are a part of. Australia is suffering as well, with over regulation, draughts, and Chinese influence within the government and in Universities. Supposedly, up to 1/3 of Australian women have had an abortion. Abortion is not paid for by the State, therefore estimates are not firm. Since the state does not pay for abortion, they may escape the "sword"/war part of Revelation 6:9 (the "last days"), but apparently not the Chinese manufactured "pestilence". Still, China is looking at Australian resources, without any notion to pay for them, and without strong US leadership, Australia should be quaking in their boots. England, and Canada are not the type of allies who they once were. If you think some down the road US designed nuclear submarine, which Biden supposedly knew nothing about, is going to get you out of the fire, think again. Biden isn't actually running the administration, but he is the front man, using the term loosely. I don't know if Australians get any coverage, but the theme in college sporting games, is for the students to all chant, f*** you Biden. The last I read, Biden's poll number was at 36% approval. Where the poll takers find 36% approval is beyond my understanding. It seems to go down 2 points almost every day. That is the destination of where "Progressive" abortion politicians are heading, not to say that is his only failing. Biden's Afghanistan withdrawal has put the Australian military brass in the cross hair of Australian public opinion. They left Australian citizens in Afghanistan with no warnings. I expect they are running from safe house to safe house until they can escape or get caught.

[brunumb]

As for a real life analysis of the tribulation, such as pestilence, of the "last days", look at the Progressive areas which promote abortion and lawlessness, such as California, with its power outages, fires, lack of water resources, high taxes, lost industry, lost population, lawlessness, etc.

How do power outages, fires, lack of water resources, high taxes, lost industry, lost population, lawlessness, etc. promote abortion?

Abortion, produces judgment, of which draughts, floods, degradation of society are a part of. Australia is suffering as well, with over regulation, draughts, and Chinese influence within the government and in Universities............[irrelevant rant]

Draughts? Anyway, please explain how power outages, fires, lack of water resources, high taxes, lost industry, lost population, lawlessness, etc. promote abortion.

Please give a citation for your claim that 1/3 of Australian women have had an abortion.

[JoeyKnothead]

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The godless, Marxist, communist CCP, kills/aborts the unborn at the rate of over 6 for every 10 children born.
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As the "loving God" sits idle, as if he didn't even exist.

[2ndpillar2]

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The godless, Marxist, communist CCP, kills/aborts the unborn at the rate of over 6 for every 10 children born.
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As the "loving God" sits idle, as if he didn't even exist.

Not exactly idle. The CCP is going down the tubes. The 3 gorge dam, the largest in the world, is looking like it might fail, the economy is in tatters, foreign companies are fleeing, they have no friends except paid off politicians, their military is big but mostly a facade, the weather is killing them, and they are having to go against the PLA and big Tech, and they have no power to heat their homes or keep their industries open, and they can't even keep the street lights on. I think they, like the US, did something wrong, and they are getting a peek into what judgment looks like. Having a free will, people can do what ever they want, but they shouldn't expect to escape judgment. As long as the US has a couple of righteous people living in their cities, the ax remains suspended over the cities. Although Portland, the home of the Progressive fascist Antifa, seems to be going over the cliff a a little prematurely. Once all the righteous leave, then the cities will be toast. (Revelation 16:19)

[2ndpillar2]

As for a real life analysis of the tribulation, such as pestilence, of the "last days", look at the Progressive areas which promote abortion and lawlessness, such as California, with its power outages, fires, lack of water resources, high taxes, lost industry, lost population, lawlessness, etc.

How do power outages, fires, lack of water resources, high taxes, lost industry, lost population, lawlessness, etc. promote abortion?

Abortion, produces judgment, of which draughts, floods, degradation of society are a part of. Australia is suffering as well, with over regulation, draughts, and Chinese influence within the government and in Universities............[irrelevant rant]

Draughts? Anyway, please explain how power outages, fires, lack of water resources, high taxes, lost industry, lost population, lawlessness, etc. promote abortion.

Please give a citation for your claim that 1/3 of Australian women have had an abortion.

https://www.childrenbychoice.org.au/fac ... statistics
First paragraph in red. It is an estimate on how many Australian women will have an abortion. Go down to your local pub, have a draught with your mates, and ask the women how many have had or will have an abortion.

[brunumb]

First paragraph in red. It is an estimate on how many Australian women will have an abortion. Go down to your local pub, have a draught with your mates, and ask the women how many have had or will have an abortion.

Perhaps you should go down to your local church, have a drought of communion wine and ask the women how many have had or will have an abortion. You might be surprised.

The irony in all your biblically inspired tales of impending doom is that, natural events aside, the majority of it is a consequence of overpopulation. A civilisation in which every conception went to term would have collapsed long ago. In any case, none of it has anything to do with predictions of Jesus swooping down to earth on his jet-powered cloud to wreak havoc on the wicked and rule over a bunch of minimally intelligent hairless apes.