Why is it every other culture acknowledges the Flood is a myth, even the originators of the tale(s), but since your religion says it is true, you can ignore that everyone else saying it is a myth, and use their claims of myth as supporting your story?
There are global flood myths in North and South America - no one believes seriously. Those from Armenia, Sumeria, and many many others, I am sure I have not mentioned and many I am unaware of; they are acknowledged myths.
Why and how can the Biblical story be correct, yet all these others myths, and geology, genetic migration, geography and so on be wrong?
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Post #2I don't sway to popular beliefs just because said belief is popular. Truth stands on its own merit even if it has to stand alone.Bandwagon is a fallacy based on the assumption that the opinion of the majority is always valid: that is, everyone believes it, so you should too. It is also called an appeal to popularity, the authority of the many, and argumentum ad populum (Latin for "appeal to the people").]
I dont believe they are wrong in essence. Mythology is mankind's way of handing down it's history. I believe that the bible is the only completely accurate account of the global flood but that the various myths (even if they contain distortions or inaccuracies) have some truth to them and are evidence that the account of a global flood is based on a true and historical event.
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Post #3And the truth is that the biblical flood did not and could not have occurred. We have known that for at least the last century. Unlike Santa and Easter Bunny, it seems that some imaginary characters and events are just too hard to let go.JehovahsWitness wrote: ↑Sun Jun 21, 2020 9:25 am Truth stands on its own merit even if it has to stand alone.
George Orwell:: “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.”
Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
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Gender ideology is anti-science, anti truth.
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Post #4[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #2]
That is, of course, an improper use of the “bandwagon” fallacy.
Everyone agrees to the story, or the bandwagon.
Only one culture was foolish enough to take it seriously enough to incorporate it into their “holy stories,” and thus require an argument for it needing to be true.
You see the difference, of course?
I am also unsure how you picked the elaboration of the op to address, instead of its main character. Doing this inadvertently, I am sure, introduced confusion, and may subsequently deceive other posters.
Something I am sure you would never desire.
But the reply has readdressed that, awaiting your reply.
That is, of course, an improper use of the “bandwagon” fallacy.
Everyone agrees to the story, or the bandwagon.
Only one culture was foolish enough to take it seriously enough to incorporate it into their “holy stories,” and thus require an argument for it needing to be true.
You see the difference, of course?
I am also unsure how you picked the elaboration of the op to address, instead of its main character. Doing this inadvertently, I am sure, introduced confusion, and may subsequently deceive other posters.
Something I am sure you would never desire.
But the reply has readdressed that, awaiting your reply.
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Post #6I have forgotten the term for clinging to beliefs in the face of overwhelming contrary evidence.
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Post #7[Replying to 1213 in post #5]
Check out Deucelion’s flood, a Greek comedy.
Native American Indian, Armenian, and so on.
Wiki has a section on it.
The world has no global flood evidence.
As I seem to recall, you have presented evidence on many levels that demonstrate local floods...?
Yes, 1. In general it is called being educated in many different fairytales, not just the Biblical one.Do you have some good reason to believe that?
Check out Deucelion’s flood, a Greek comedy.
Native American Indian, Armenian, and so on.
Wiki has a section on it.
The world has no global flood evidence.
As I seem to recall, you have presented evidence on many levels that demonstrate local floods...?
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Post #8The flood could not be avoided whether we sinned or not, as it was a consequence of the melting of the glaciers after about 17,000 years ago. It is not by human sin, but by nature itself.
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Post #9Is this opinion based on knowledge of glaciology, geology, hydrology -- or perhaps upon study of theology?Leonardo Betetto wrote: ↑Wed Jun 24, 2020 9:28 am The flood could not be avoided whether we sinned or not, as it was a consequence of the melting of the glaciers after about 17,000 years ago. It is not by human sin, but by nature itself.
Do you propose that the Earth WAS flooded 'to the tops of mountains' (per the Genesis account or similar) as a result of glacial melting?
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Post #10I am approaching this topic from two perspectives:
1. Mythological: Genesis was taken from the epic of Gilgamesh, from the Sumerians.
2. Scientific: indeed there were many deluges due to glacial melt.
The covered up to the mountains do not forget is a biblical legend.
1. Mythological: Genesis was taken from the epic of Gilgamesh, from the Sumerians.
2. Scientific: indeed there were many deluges due to glacial melt.
The covered up to the mountains do not forget is a biblical legend.