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Why is Christianity declining in the US and other advanced / technological / educated nations?

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Why is Christianity declining in the US and other advanced / technological / educated nations (particularly among younger generations)?
New Pew survey finds self-identified US Christians dropped 12% in a decade, as number of those claiming no religious affiliation surged

Over the last decade, the share of Americans who say they attend religious services at least once or twice a month dropped by 7 percentage points, while the share who say they attend religious services less often — if at all — rose by the same degree.

Empty Tomb, a Christian organization based in Champaign, Illinois, that researches religious giving, says the decline is longstanding. According to its research, Americans gave about 3% of their disposable income to churches in 1968, and less than 2.2% in 2016.
https://www.timesofisrael.com/decline-o ... oll-finds/
The number of Americans who call themselves Christian declined from 77% ten years ago to 65% in 2019. What is worse (or better), the absolute number of Christians declined. In 2019, the country had thirteen million fewer Christians at one hundred sixty-six million.

Protestants have nine million fewer members, two million less born-again’s, and seven million less non-born-again’s. Catholics are down by two million. Mormons were up slightly, but their % remained the same at 2%.

People who identified themselves as atheists, agnostics, or “nothing in particular” increased by twenty-seven million to sixty-seven million people. Today, 17% of Americans say they never attend religious services up from 11% a decade ago.
The data also shows a wide gap between older Americans and Millennials in their levels of religious affiliation and attendance. People born between 1928 and 1945 describe themselves as Christians 84% of the time. Baby Boomers only 76% of the time. In stark contrast, only 49% of Millenials describe themselves as Christian. Four-in-ten Millenials described themselves as “nones,” and one-in-ten identified with non-Christian faith.
http://churchandstate.org.uk/2020/06/u- ... apid-pace/
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brunumb wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:59 pm
Quantrill wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:22 pm Christianity is declining because God is moving towards again working with the nation of Israel as His people.
Do you have a source for this revelation?
It comes from this old book I have called the Bible. Did you note by reference to Noah?

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Quantrill wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:16 pm
brunumb wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:59 pm
Quantrill wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 6:22 pm Christianity is declining because God is moving towards again working with the nation of Israel as His people.
Do you have a source for this revelation?
It comes from this old book I have called the Bible. Did you note by reference to Noah?

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We are not living in the time of Noah. I am asking how you know that God is now "moving towards again working with the nation of Israel as His people".
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Zzyzx wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:04 am
Why is Christianity declining in the US and other advanced / technological / educated nations (particularly among younger generations)?
Is China an "advanced / technological / educated nation"?

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historia wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:16 pm
Zzyzx wrote: Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:04 am Why is Christianity declining in the US and other advanced / technological / educated nations (particularly among younger generations)?
Is China an "advanced / technological / educated nation"?
China identifies itself as a 'developing' nation -- and it ranks 79th among world nations in per capita GDP:
Despite being the world's second-largest economy and home to the most billionaires, China is still categorised as a "developing" country and enjoys the same "special and differential treatment" afforded to nations like Papua New Guinea and Zimbabwe.

The WTO does not define a "developed" or "developing" country, nor does it have any benchmarks to determine which bucket its members fall into.

It is entirely up to the individual members to self-allocate themselves to a group. The WTO also recognises the "least-developed" countries designated by the United Nations.

The World Bank, however, defines a high-income country — or "developed" country — by setting the threshold for gross national income (GNI) per capita at $US12,055 ($16,900).

Since China's GNI per capita — at $US8,690 in 2017 — falls below the threshold, it could possibly argue that it is eligible for the status under this framework.

But this definition is not binding or officially accepted by the WTO, and there exists no all-encompassing framework tied to soaring GDP or anything of the sort.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-11/ ... y/10980480

The World Bank considers countries with a per capita income of less than $12,275 as developing countries. According to the World Bank, China’s per capita nominal GDP was $7,594 in 2014, which ranked 79th among 183 countries. Yet in other ways, China might be considered a developed country
https://chinapower.csis.org/is-china-a- ... d-country/
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Zzyzx wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:51 pm
historia wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:16 pm
Is China an "advanced / technological / educated nation"?
China identifies itself as a 'developing' nation
Neither of the sources you cited says China identifies itself as a developing nation.
Zzyzx wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:51 pm
and it ranks 79th among world nations in per capita GDP
So by an "advanced / technological / educated nation" you mean nations with a high per capita GDP? So, for example, Qatar, Brunei, the United Arab Emirates, and Kuwait?

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brunumb wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:41 pm
We are not living in the time of Noah. I am asking how you know that God is now "moving towards again working with the nation of Israel as His people".
No, you asked for my source of this 'revelation'. And I gave it to you. The Bible.

What I said is based upon my understanding of the Bible.

The Bible teaches that the Church will fail and decline and that God will once again pick up with Israel where He left off when She rejected Christ.

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Quantrill wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:52 am
brunumb wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:41 pm
We are not living in the time of Noah. I am asking how you know that God is now "moving towards again working with the nation of Israel as His people".
No, you asked for my source of this 'revelation'. And I gave it to you. The Bible.

What I said is based upon my understanding of the Bible.

The Bible teaches that the Church will fail and decline and that God will once again pick up with Israel where He left off when She rejected Christ.

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So it is not actually specified in the Bible but is merely your opinion based on your own extrapolation of what it supposedly teaches. Got it. Now all we need is some verification of God's current actions.
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brunumb wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:51 am
So it is not actually specified in the Bible but is merely your opinion based on your own extrapolation of what it supposedly teaches. Got it. Now all we need is some verification of God's current actions.
Yes, my understanding is based upon what the Bible teaches. And because Christianity is the subject, and it's decline, then the Bible is necessary for an answer as to why.

If you don't believe the Bible, then that is fine. I do.

God is always progressing in gathering out the number of the Church that He wants....Just as He is always progressing and preparing to work with the nation Israel once again. The decline of the Church and the resurrecting of Israel goes hand in hand.

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Zzyzx wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 2:01 pm ...
It should be illuminating that Jesus was supposedly run out of his own hometown as a fraud.
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historia wrote: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:14 am
Zzyzx wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:51 pm
historia wrote: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:16 pm
Is China an "advanced / technological / educated nation"?
China identifies itself as a 'developing' nation
Neither of the sources you cited says China identifies itself as a developing nation.
What part of this is difficult to understand?
Despite being the world's second-largest economy and home to the most billionaires, China is still categorised as a "developing" country and enjoys the same "special and differential treatment" afforded to nations like Papua New Guinea and Zimbabwe.

Beijing maintains that it sees no reason to give up the self-declared status at the World Trade Organisation (WTO) — or its perks — claiming the preferential treatment is a "fundamental right".

Last week, commerce ministry spokesman Gao Feng explained during a regular press conference that China was the "largest developing country" in the world, even though the Asian superpower has a GDP of $US14.2 trillion — in comparison, Australia's GDP is roughly $US1.5 trillion. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-04-11/ ... y/10980480
Those are the first three paragraphs of the first article I cited.

Note: 'identifies itself as' means the same as 'self-declared status'
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