A more plausible Noah’s Arks

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A more plausible Noah’s Arks

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What if Noah made many large circular arks, all over the world, instead of just one?
Building the arks would have involved traveling.
The animals on the arks Noah and family weren’t personally on were manned by enchanted apes and other capable animals or failing that, angels.
The penguins just had natural ice arks, and no worries at all.

What say you? Have I just sent logical thought back 1500 years, or what?

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Re: A more plausible Noah’s Arks

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[Replying to 1213 in post #6]
In that case it would not be anymore what the Bible tells. According to the Bible, there was just one Ark that was square.
A square ark is not feasible. Perhaps there was a mistranslated, or later chroniclers just didn't believe it meant square.
And as there was just 8 different kind of humans and now we have about 7 billion different looking humans, we can assume the same with animals.
This is a poor assumption when you consider unique animals in Madagascar and other parts of the world.

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1213 wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:39 pm
According to the Bible, there was just one Ark that was square.
Why would a square have three varying dimensions?
  • Genesis 6:15 This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be three hundred cubits long, fifty cubits wide and thirty cubits high.

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Tcg wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:56 pm
1213 wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:39 pm According to the Bible, there was just one Ark that was square.
Why would a square have three varying dimensions?
  • Genesis 6:15 This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be three hundred cubits long, fifty cubits wide and thirty cubits high.
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It could be an oval.

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Willum wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:04 pm
Tcg wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:56 pm
1213 wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:39 pm According to the Bible, there was just one Ark that was square.
Why would a square have three varying dimensions?
  • Genesis 6:15 This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be three hundred cubits long, fifty cubits wide and thirty cubits high.
Tcg
It could be an oval.
Maybe an ovoid but wouldn't that require more than three dimensions? Something including rates of curvature or some such?


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[Replying to Tcg in post #14]
Maybe an ovoid but wouldn't that require more than three dimensions? Something including rates of curvature or some such?
I don't see why. Major and Minor axis.
The rest he could have left up to Noah.

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Willum wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:03 am [Replying to Tcg in post #14]
Maybe an ovoid but wouldn't that require more than three dimensions? Something including rates of curvature or some such?
I don't see why. Major and Minor axis.
The rest he could have left up to Noah.
That would involve two dimensions then. The tale has God giving Noah three.

Two too many for a square and one too many for an ovoid.


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Tcg wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:18 pm
Willum wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:04 pm
Tcg wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:56 pm
1213 wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:39 pm According to the Bible, there was just one Ark that was square.
Why would a square have three varying dimensions?
  • Genesis 6:15 This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be three hundred cubits long, fifty cubits wide and thirty cubits high.
Tcg
It could be an oval.
Maybe an ovoid but wouldn't that require more than three dimensions? Something including rates of curvature or some such?


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An ark is simply a chest. Noah's ark wasn't a square, though it did have square corners. It was a chest, like the ark of the covenant.
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Re: A more plausible Noah’s Arks

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bluegreenearth wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:46 am
RJG wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:34 am The Noah's Ark myth made no sense at all.
Well, to be fair, it does make sense in one particular context. If you presume an impractical and incompetent God exists, then Noah's ark makes sense.
The Biblical god is a screw up merchant if what is attributed to it is correct.

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Plausibility sees like a bit of distraction when the premise of an all powerful deity is taken into account. Polar bears travelling to the Ark? God can zap them there. Too many to fit on? God can make room. Ark not sea worthy? Not with God holding it together.

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Re: A more plausible Noah’s Arks

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DavidLeon wrote: Mon Jul 20, 2020 12:47 am
Tcg wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:18 pm
Willum wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:04 pm
Tcg wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 10:56 pm
1213 wrote: Sun Jul 19, 2020 2:39 pm According to the Bible, there was just one Ark that was square.
Why would a square have three varying dimensions?
  • Genesis 6:15 This is how you are to build it: The ark is to be three hundred cubits long, fifty cubits wide and thirty cubits high.
Tcg
It could be an oval.
Maybe an ovoid but wouldn't that require more than three dimensions? Something including rates of curvature or some such?


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An ark is simply a chest. Noah's ark wasn't a square, though it did have square corners. It was a chest, like the ark of the covenant.
Oh my, I didn't think the story could get more absurd.
Personally, a floating dresser would make more sense. Each 'kind' could have its own drawer then.
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