What Is The Evidence For And Against The Existence Of God?

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What Is The Evidence For And Against The Existence Of God?

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What is the evidence for the nonexistence of God and is the Bible evidence of the existence of God?

God in this case refers exclusively to Jehovah as creator of the heavens and earth. A supernatural being.

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Re: What Is The Evidence For And Against The Existence Of God?

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We_Are_VENOM wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:37 am [Replying to Tcg in post #69]

Even if God is a clown in a box, that still would mean that God exists, right? Which in essence undermines atheism.

So thank you.
No, you missed the point. Anything that could be contained in a box couldn't possible qualify to be described as God unless one has an very lax job description for the position. If that is the case, then sure, God could be a clown in a box.

Is that your contention?


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Re: What Is The Evidence For And Against The Existence Of God?

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Tcg wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:20 pm
We_Are_VENOM wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 2:37 am [Replying to Tcg in post #69]

Even if God is a clown in a box, that still would mean that God exists, right? Which in essence undermines atheism.

So thank you.
No, you missed the point. Anything that could be contained in a box couldn't possible qualify to be described as God unless one has an very lax job description for the position. If that is the case, then sure, God could be a clown in a box.

Is that your contention?


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Ridiculous. What exactly is the job description of a god? And how did you come about it?
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Re: What Is The Evidence For And Against The Existence Of God?

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Tcg wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 3:20 pm
No, you missed the point. Anything that could be contained in a box couldn't possible qualify to be described as God unless one has an very lax job description for the position. If that is the case, then sure, God could be a clown in a box.

Is that your contention?
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No, YOU are missing the point. You pointed to an entity (clown in a box), contending that "there is God, right here". Well, if that is God, then God exists, which is a defeater of atheism.

In other words, your attempt at humor actually proved my point, and it is just as simple as that.
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Re: What Is The Evidence For And Against The Existence Of God?

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We_Are_VENOM wrote: Thu Aug 13, 2020 6:43 pm Evidence for the existence of God..

1. The Kalam Cosmological Argument
2. The Argument from Contingency
3. The Argument from Consciousness
4. The Argument from Design (focusing on entropy)
5. The Argument from the Origin of Language
6. The Modal Ontological Argument

Evidence against the arguments for the existence of God

1. The Kalam Cosmological Argument
11 Objections to the Kalam Cosmological Argument

2. The Argument from Contingency
Three Responses to the Argument from Contingency

3. The Argument from Consciousness
The Argument from Consciousness Refuted

4. The Argument from Design (focusing on entropy)
The Watchmaker Analogy: A Self-Refuting Argument

5. The Argument from the Origin of Language
Boy, this is a new one. How does it go?

6. The Modal Ontological Argument
Debunking the Modal Ontological Argument Six Ways from Sunday

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Tcg wrote: Fri Aug 14, 2020 12:58 am God in a box:
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Great analogy there Tcg. Open up the Bible/box and out pops Jehovah, the clown god. Thwarted at every turn, this deity has only one solution in his bag of tricks, bloodshed. Has there ever been a more inept portrayal of a seemingly omnipotent, intelligent deity? I doubt it.
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Re: What Is The Evidence For And Against The Existence Of God?

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[Replying to DavidLeon in post #1]

You want natural evidence for a supernatural being? Hmmmm tricky. A being in super nature reaching into nature would be the equivalent of magic. You are asking for proof of magic. Sorry magic no exist in the natural world.
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