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The servants of God known as prophets and saints, are visible human bodies used to testify to the invisible eternal image of our Creator.

Temporary is what can be melted away with very high heat including human bodies.

What else do you think is temporary that is not eternal?

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IAMinyou wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:29 am The servants of God known as prophets and saints, are visible human bodies used to testify to the invisible eternal image of our Creator.

Temporary is what can be melted away with very high heat including human bodies.

What else do you think is temporary that is not eternal?
Ice cubes
Donald Trump
Scratches
Underwear
Head lice
Good looks
Bad looks
Donald Trump
The Eiffel Tower
The weeds in my back yard
Donald Trump

And that's it. All else is eternal.


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IAMinyou wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:29 am The servants of God known as prophets and saints, are visible human bodies used to testify to the invisible eternal image of our Creator.
What exactly is an ‘invisible eternal image’?
Temporary is what can be melted away with very high heat including human bodies.
‘combustible’ might be a better word if you are trying to classify things by their permanence in the presence of high temperatures.
What else do you think is temporary that is not eternal?
Pretty much everything - the only thing likely to be ‘eternal’ is the heat death of the universe. We know that most stars will run out of fuel and die in only a hundred billion years or so, for example. Here’s a helpful video:
https://youtu.be/4_aOIA-vyBo

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IAMinyou wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:29 am
Temporary is what can be melted away with very high heat including human bodies.
Human bodies are composed of inanimate matter. As we know from the process of cremation, that inanimate matter does not melt away it is simply converted to a different form.
What else do you think is temporary that is not eternal?
The formation inanimate matter takes is temporary. What once was a living being is reduced to it's component parts. There is no reason to conclude that the component parts are temporary nor is there any reason to conclude that there are any non-material aspects to living beings.


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[Replying to Miles in post #2]

At least I have found a Trump hater who is temporary.

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Tcg wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:40 pm
IAMinyou wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:29 am
Temporary is what can be melted away with very high heat including human bodies.
Human bodies are composed of inanimate matter. As we know from the process of cremation, that inanimate matter does not melt away it is simply converted to a different form.
Human bodies can be totally melted into thin air without any remaining particles with enough heat applied. No one has any patience to actually observe that though.
What else do you think is temporary that is not eternal?
The formation inanimate matter takes is temporary. What once was a living being is reduced to it's component parts. There is no reason to conclude that the component parts are temporary nor is there any reason to conclude that there are any non-material aspects to living beings.
You obviously do not understand quantum mechanics like most physicists can't understand.

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Diagoras wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 6:18 pm
IAMinyou wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:29 am The servants of God known as prophets and saints, are visible human bodies used to testify to the invisible eternal image of our Creator.
What exactly is an ‘invisible eternal image’?
Think of your created existence as an AI system than can speak but will never be destroyed.
Temporary is what can be melted away with very high heat including human bodies.
‘combustible’ might be a better word if you are trying to classify things by their permanence in the presence of high temperatures.


At least you understand what "being melted" means.
What else do you think is temporary that is not eternal?
Pretty much everything - the only thing likely to be ‘eternal’ is the heat death of the universe. We know that most stars will run out of fuel and die in only a hundred billion years or so, for example.


Not all invisible frequencies that produce light can melt visible illusions. However, frequencies that cause very high heat can melt away those invisible light frequencies that form images.

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IAMinyou wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:11 am Human bodies can be totally melted into thin air without any remaining particles with enough heat applied. No one has any patience to actually observe that though.
Human bodies will not melt into thin air. As the body is heated some of the fat may melt, but as the temperature is increased everything will burn. Most of the flesh will be converted to carbon dioxide and steam which will escape into the air and be dispersed. At high enough temperatures, any residue may be vaporised. In any case, all of the atoms that made up the original body will still exist just in different forms and in different locations. Nothing mysterious about any of it so the point you are trying to make is completely lost on me.
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IAMinyou wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:11 am
Tcg wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 7:40 pm
IAMinyou wrote: Wed Sep 02, 2020 3:29 am
Temporary is what can be melted away with very high heat including human bodies.
Human bodies are composed of inanimate matter. As we know from the process of cremation, that inanimate matter does not melt away it is simply converted to a different form.
Human bodies can be totally melted into thin air without any remaining particles with enough heat applied. No one has any patience to actually observe that though.
I have enough patience to allow you to support this claim. Please do so.
What else do you think is temporary that is not eternal?
The formation inanimate matter takes is temporary. What once was a living being is reduced to it's component parts. There is no reason to conclude that the component parts are temporary nor is there any reason to conclude that there are any non-material aspects to living beings.
You obviously do not understand quantum mechanics like most physicists can't understand.
Then please explain how quantum mechanics apply here.


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IAMinyou wrote: Thu Sep 03, 2020 2:15 am Not all invisible frequencies that produce light can melt visible illusions. However, frequencies that cause very high heat can melt away those invisible light frequencies that form images.
So, please tell us what invisible frequencies that produce light can melt visible illusions. An example of a visible illusion being melted would help in understanding what you are trying to say.

Also, what invisible light frequencies form images and what is the significance of that?
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