What is special about Jesus?

[Wootah]

If we can agree that bulls and lambs are insufficient propitiations for our sins then what makes Jesus a sufficient propitiation?

Especially if you think Jesus is a created being then what makes one created being sufficient and another insufficient?

If he is a human then how did he pull it off to not sin for 33 years? Was Jesus created perfect?

[JehovahsWitness]

Of all the created things God deliberately blocked them from being sinless except this created thing.

This doesn'r reflect the my theology at all, my theology is bibe based, this statement is your own and I claim no ownership of it.

[JehovahsWitness]

If Jesus is a man, an actual man that is a substitute for us, then he is with sin.

Jesus isn't a man (a human) now, he is presently a mighty spirit being who sits at God's right hand. But he (Jesus) was a man, in the past. Perhaps you would like to explain why your theology doesn't allow for Jesus to have been born a human. Or why your theology rejects the biblical teaching that Jesus, during his human, life committed no sin.

HEBREWS 4:15 ISV

For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathize with our weaknesses. Instead, we have one who in every respect has been tempted as we are, yet he never sinned.

JW


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[Miles]

If Jesus is a man, an actual man that is a substitute for us, then he is with sin.

Jesus isn't a man (a human) now, he is presently a mighty spirit being who sits at God's right hand. But he (Jesus) was a man, in the past. Perhaps you would like to explain why your theology doesn't allow for Jesus to have been born a human. Or why your theology rejects the biblical teaching that Jesus, during his human, life committed no sin.

Other than Jesus, has anyone ever lived without having sinned?


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[JehovahsWitness]

Other than Jesus, has anyone ever lived without having sinned?

If by "anyone" you are refering to any HUMAN, then biblicaly, no. Nor, as natural descendants of Adam could anyone ever hope to.

1 JOHN 1:8
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

ROMANS 5:12

... just as through one man sin entered into the world and death through sin,+ and so death spread to all men because they had all sinned

ECCLESIASTES 7:20

For there is no righteous man on earth who always does good and never sins.

ROMANS 3:23

For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God

Further reading The truth about sin
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/2010414



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[Wootah]

Of all the created things God deliberately blocked them from being sinless except this created thing.

This doesn'r reflect the my theology at all, my theology is bibe based, this statement is your own and I claim no ownership of it.

Looks like a duck ....

Yes well, how would you phrase it? Your own words is best.

[JehovahsWitness]

Of all the created things God deliberately blocked them from being sinless except this created thing.

This doesn'r reflect the my theology at all, my theology is bibe based, this statement is your own and I claim no ownership of it.

... how would you phrase it? Your own words is best.

By "it" are you asking about my belief or yours? If you are asking me to explain what *I* believe in my own words, I would say:

I believe that everything God makes is perfect. That perfection can be lost through the deliberate acts of those creatures endowed with free will. And that God never blocks or impedes anyone from making the right choices in this regards.

I have no interest in rephrasing your statement in my own words.


JW

[Wootah]

I believe that everything God makes is perfect. That perfection can be lost through the deliberate acts of those creatures endowed with free will. And that God never blocks or impedes anyone from making the right choices in this regards.

Where does God say everything he makes is perfect? Genesis calls everything good.

Does a perfect creature need God?

I think we are all highly dependant on God.

[JehovahsWitness]

I believe that everything God makes is perfect. That perfection can be lost through the deliberate acts of those creatures endowed with free will. And that God never blocks or impedes anyone from making the right choices in this regards.

Where does God say everything he makes is perfect?

DEUTERONOMY 32: 3, 4

Tell about the greatness of our God! The Rock, perfect is his activity. For all his ways are justice...

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[Wootah]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #68]

Does a perfect creature need God?

[Wootah]

[Replying to JehovahsWitness in post #68]

Do you regard a person born retarded as perfect?