What is special about Jesus?

Wootah · Post by **Wootah** » Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:18 am

If we can agree that bulls and lambs are insufficient propitiations for our sins then what makes Jesus a sufficient propitiation?

Especially if you think Jesus is a created being then what makes one created being sufficient and another insufficient?

If he is a human then how did he pull it off to not sin for 33 years? Was Jesus created perfect?

Diagoras · Post by **Diagoras** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:52 pm

For someone to be truly ‘famous’, we generally know a lot about their life.

What do we know of Jesus between the ages of say, twelve to twenty nine?

Not much. In fact, since that’s around fifty percent of his whole life (generously assuming his crucifixion was at thirty three), we should probably admit it:

We don’t accurately know the half-life of Jesus.

Post by **Tcg** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:59 pm

Diagoras wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:52 pm For someone to be truly ‘famous’, we generally know a lot about their life.

What do we know of Jesus between the ages of say, twelve to twenty nine?

Not much. In fact, since that’s around fifty percent of his whole life (generously assuming his crucifixion was at thirty three), we should probably admit it:

We don’t accurately know the half-life of Jesus.

Not to disagree, but it's broader than that.

What do we know of Jesus between age one or so and age twelve?

We don't know accurately +/- 90% of Jesus' life and that assumes that what is recorded is accurate.

Tcg

jimtatertayte · Post by **jimtatertayte** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:02 pm

Tcg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:44 pm
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:27 pm
brunumb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:03 pm [Replying to jimtatertayte in post #77]

Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make.
Seeing that is too much of a stretch for you I will have to wait till
you increase in understanding so as to carry on this conversation with you.
This amounts to nothing more than an admission on your part that you can't support your claim. We see this quite often, posters who can't support their claims and blame others for their failure.

Tcg

So where is your support for this claim you are making here to us?
Please post it for us.

Post by **Tcg** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:10 pm

jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:02 pm
Tcg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:44 pm
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:27 pm
brunumb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:03 pm [Replying to jimtatertayte in post #77]

Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make.
Seeing that is too much of a stretch for you I will have to wait till
you increase in understanding so as to carry on this conversation with you.
This amounts to nothing more than an admission on your part that you can't support your claim. We see this quite often, posters who can't support their claims and blame others for their failure.

Tcg
So where is your support for this claim you are making here to us?
Please post it for us.

I don't need to. Your post is the support.

Tcg

Diagoras · Post by **Diagoras** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:12 pm

[Replying to jimtatertayte in post #83]

Please can you support your claim that brunumb should support the claim that you can’t support your claim that he doesn’t know what point you’re trying to make is?

That would clear things up nicely, and then we can move on.

jimtatertayte · Post by **jimtatertayte** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:43 pm

Tcg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:10 pm
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:02 pm
Tcg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:44 pm
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:27 pm
brunumb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:03 pm [Replying to jimtatertayte in post #77]

Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make.
Seeing that is too much of a stretch for you I will have to wait till
you increase in understanding so as to carry on this conversation with you.
This amounts to nothing more than an admission on your part that you can't support your claim. We see this quite often, posters who can't support their claims and blame others for their failure.

Tcg
So where is your support for this claim you are making here to us?
Please post it for us.
I don't need to. Your post is the support.

Tcg

No you have to support it with your own post. Besides their post was my support.

Post by **Tcg** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:50 pm

jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:43 pm
Tcg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:10 pm
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:02 pm
Tcg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:44 pm
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:27 pm
brunumb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:03 pm [Replying to jimtatertayte in post #77]

Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make.
Seeing that is too much of a stretch for you I will have to wait till
you increase in understanding so as to carry on this conversation with you.
This amounts to nothing more than an admission on your part that you can't support your claim. We see this quite often, posters who can't support their claims and blame others for their failure.

Tcg
So where is your support for this claim you are making here to us?
Please post it for us.
I don't need to. Your post is the support.

Tcg
No you have to support it with your own post. Besides their post was my support.

That's quite a double standard you've concocted. One that still doesn't support your claim.

Tcg

jimtatertayte · Post by **jimtatertayte** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:51 pm

Tcg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:50 pm
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:43 pm
Tcg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:10 pm
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:02 pm
Tcg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:44 pm
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:27 pm
brunumb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:03 pm [Replying to jimtatertayte in post #77]

Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make.
Seeing that is too much of a stretch for you I will have to wait till
you increase in understanding so as to carry on this conversation with you.
This amounts to nothing more than an admission on your part that you can't support your claim. We see this quite often, posters who can't support their claims and blame others for their failure.

Tcg
So where is your support for this claim you are making here to us?
Please post it for us.
I don't need to. Your post is the support.

Tcg
No you have to support it with your own post. Besides their post was my support.
That's quite a double standard you've concocted. One that still doesn't support your claim.

Tcg

I just copied it from you.

Post by **Tcg** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:54 pm

jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:51 pm
Tcg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:50 pm
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:43 pm
Tcg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:10 pm
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:02 pm
Tcg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:44 pm
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:27 pm
brunumb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:03 pm [Replying to jimtatertayte in post #77]

Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make.
Seeing that is too much of a stretch for you I will have to wait till
you increase in understanding so as to carry on this conversation with you.
This amounts to nothing more than an admission on your part that you can't support your claim. We see this quite often, posters who can't support their claims and blame others for their failure.

Tcg
So where is your support for this claim you are making here to us?
Please post it for us.
I don't need to. Your post is the support.

Tcg
No you have to support it with your own post. Besides their post was my support.
That's quite a double standard you've concocted. One that still doesn't support your claim.

Tcg
I just copied it from you.

Impossible. I've supported my claim. You've yet to attempt to support yours.

Tcg

jimtatertayte · Post by **jimtatertayte** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:54 pm

Tcg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:54 pm
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:51 pm
Tcg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:50 pm
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:43 pm
Tcg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:10 pm
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:02 pm
Tcg wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:44 pm
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:27 pm
brunumb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:03 pm [Replying to jimtatertayte in post #77]

Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make.
Seeing that is too much of a stretch for you I will have to wait till
you increase in understanding so as to carry on this conversation with you.
This amounts to nothing more than an admission on your part that you can't support your claim. We see this quite often, posters who can't support their claims and blame others for their failure.

Tcg
So where is your support for this claim you are making here to us?
Please post it for us.
I don't need to. Your post is the support.

Tcg
No you have to support it with your own post. Besides their post was my support.
That's quite a double standard you've concocted. One that still doesn't support your claim.

Tcg
I just copied it from you.
Impossible. I've supported my claim. You've yet to attempt to support yours.

Tcg

And I say that you did not support your claim with the truth.

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