What is special about Jesus?

Wootah · Post by **Wootah** » Wed Sep 23, 2020 1:18 am

If we can agree that bulls and lambs are insufficient propitiations for our sins then what makes Jesus a sufficient propitiation?

Especially if you think Jesus is a created being then what makes one created being sufficient and another insufficient?

If he is a human then how did he pull it off to not sin for 33 years? Was Jesus created perfect?

Post by **Tcg** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:59 pm

jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:54 pm And I say that you did not support your claim with the truth.

Now all you've left to do is support your claim with something other than a bald assertion.

Tcg

jimtatertayte · Post by **jimtatertayte** » Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:59 pm

brunumb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:03 pm [Replying to jimtatertayte in post #77]

Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make.

And who is the blame for it? Are you blaming me for you not be able to understand my point?
If so why would I be the blame for you not being able to see the point?

In a debate you seeing the point or not seeing the point
is not my responsibility to you, but it is your responsibility to rebuttal it unless
the only excuse you have for not making one is...

"Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make."

To which point you concede to me the winner.

Post by **Tcg** » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:10 am

jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:59 pm
brunumb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:03 pm [Replying to jimtatertayte in post #77]

Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make.
And who is the blame for it? Are you blaming me for you not be able to understand my point?
If so why would I be the blame for you not being able to see the point?

In a debate you seeing the point or not seeing the point
is not my responsibility to you, but it is your responsibility to rebuttal it unless
the only excuse you have for not making one is...

"Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make."

To which point you concede to me the winner.

No. As we have already established, if you can't support your claim the fault is yours.

If being unable to support your claim makes you the winner, then yes, you have won.

Tcg

jimtatertayte · Post by **jimtatertayte** » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:13 am

Tcg wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:10 am
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:59 pm
brunumb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:03 pm [Replying to jimtatertayte in post #77]

Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make.
And who is the blame for it? Are you blaming me for you not be able to understand my point?
If so why would I be the blame for you not being able to see the point?

In a debate you seeing the point or not seeing the point
is not my responsibility to you, but it is your responsibility to rebuttal it unless
the only excuse you have for not making one is...

"Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make."

To which point you concede to me the winner.
No. As we have already established, if you can't support your claim the fault is yours.

If being unable to support your claim makes you the winner, then yes, you have won.

Tcg

We shall see how God will judge this between you and I.

I have already took it before Him.

I would suggest you go and convince Him...this is no game.

And you should have left well enough alone. But here we are now with it before the living God.

jimtatertayte · Post by **jimtatertayte** » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:15 am

Maybe I set you up?

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Post by **Tcg** » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:21 am

jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:13 am
Tcg wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:10 am
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:59 pm
brunumb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:03 pm [Replying to jimtatertayte in post #77]

Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make.
And who is the blame for it? Are you blaming me for you not be able to understand my point?
If so why would I be the blame for you not being able to see the point?

In a debate you seeing the point or not seeing the point
is not my responsibility to you, but it is your responsibility to rebuttal it unless
the only excuse you have for not making one is...

"Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make."

To which point you concede to me the winner.
No. As we have already established, if you can't support your claim the fault is yours.

If being unable to support your claim makes you the winner, then yes, you have won.

Tcg
We shall see how God will judge this between you and I.

I have already took it before Him.

I would suggest you go and convince Him...this is no game.

And you should have left well enough alone. But here we are now with it before the living God.

Nice try. We are now left to evaluate the claims you have failed to support. Turning to God at this point simply displays the fact that you can't support your claims on your own.

Given that "the living God" doesn't post on this forum, you are left defensless.

Tcg

jimtatertayte · Post by **jimtatertayte** » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:25 am

Tcg wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:21 am
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:13 am
Tcg wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:10 am
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:59 pm
brunumb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:03 pm [Replying to jimtatertayte in post #77]

Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make.
And who is the blame for it? Are you blaming me for you not be able to understand my point?
If so why would I be the blame for you not being able to see the point?

In a debate you seeing the point or not seeing the point
is not my responsibility to you, but it is your responsibility to rebuttal it unless
the only excuse you have for not making one is...

"Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make."

To which point you concede to me the winner.
No. As we have already established, if you can't support your claim the fault is yours.

If being unable to support your claim makes you the winner, then yes, you have won.

Tcg
We shall see how God will judge this between you and I.

I have already took it before Him.

I would suggest you go and convince Him...this is no game.

And you should have left well enough alone. But here we are now with it before the living God.
Nice try. We are now left to evaluate the claims you have failed to support. Turning to God at this point simply displays the fact that you can't support your claims on your own.

Given that "the living God" doesn't post on this forum, you are left defensless.

Tcg

This makes it even better...you will not see it coming.

Post by **Tcg** » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:31 am

jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:25 am
This makes it even better...you will not see it coming.

Ah, yes. An empty scare tactic in the place of reasoned support. A classic though thoroughly empty reply.

Tcg

brunumb · Post by **brunumb** » Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:55 am

jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:59 pm
brunumb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:03 pm [Replying to jimtatertayte in post #77]

Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make.
And who is the blame for it? Are you blaming me for you not be able to understand my point?
If so why would I be the blame for you not being able to see the point?

In a debate you seeing the point or not seeing the point
is not my responsibility to you, but it is your responsibility to rebuttal it unless
the only excuse you have for not making one is...

"Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make."

To which point you concede to me the winner.

OK, you won. What did you win? You supposedly made some point which could not be understood. It was not an argument or even part of a debate. There was nothing to rebut. Perhaps I should post some gibberish that can't be understood so that I can claim a victory too. It's hard to smuggle a pineapple in your pants.

jimtatertayte · Post by **jimtatertayte** » Tue Sep 29, 2020 12:04 pm

brunumb wrote: ↑Tue Sep 29, 2020 4:55 am
jimtatertayte wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 11:59 pm
brunumb wrote: ↑Mon Sep 28, 2020 10:03 pm [Replying to jimtatertayte in post #77]

Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make.
And who is the blame for it? Are you blaming me for you not be able to understand my point?
If so why would I be the blame for you not being able to see the point?

In a debate you seeing the point or not seeing the point
is not my responsibility to you, but it is your responsibility to rebuttal it unless
the only excuse you have for not making one is...

"Forgive me but I can't see whatever point it is you are trying to make."

To which point you concede to me the winner.
OK, you won. What did you win?

Your life and soul.
We were playing for it all.

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