Does having faith mean not seeking knowledge?

[nobspeople]

Recently someone said, when discussing knowledge, "It would have been much easier, less painful, to know by listening to God and by letting him explain it." Outside of God never explaining much of anything, it got my mind wondering if faith, itself, equates to (at least partial) lack of knowledge or the need to understand more.

A few things people don't know but accept by faith:
how God came to be
what God is
how God forgives
what lies beyond the reached of our universe
how God created all things - even things we don't know about yet
how can all of the earth save for one family be guilty enough to drown in a flood (even babies that were just being born - as it's a good assumptions that this was happening without the bible specifying)
why animals need to suffer for what people did and be drowned in the flood

The list can continue but this one is what I want to discuss:
Why did God not want Adam and Eve to eat from the knowledge of good and evil?
Christians say God doesn't want robots, but when Adam and Eve ate from the tree, they weren't acting like robots, but pure individuals. Yet, they (the story goes) condemned mankind for wanting to know the knowledge the tree held.
People could counter by saying they simple wanted to disobey God - they would have eaten from any tree - but because the bible points to this particular tree and its title or name, I don't believe it was simple rebellion.


God doesn't seem to want us to know more as outlined by this story of the tree, but he does want faith. So it seems, at least in part, God doesn't want us to know certain things and rely almost strictly on faith in him.
If that doesn't sound like robots.....

So what did that tree hold, exactly, that God didn't want them to know?

[brunumb]

Misinterpretations of one part of the Bible are reasons to mistrust the person who offers the interpretation, not a reason to mistrust other claims from the Bible.

One person's interpretation is another person's misinterpretation. The countless individual Christian sects are testament to the fluidity of interpretation of the Bible. The best interpretation is that it is a compilation of tall tales produced for the purpose of religious propaganda. What criteria do you apply to determine which person to trust?

[nobspeople]

2)If there are some 'mis-interpretations' of the bible - even little ones - how are we to know if the 'big ones' are true? Faith? Faith comes from accepting God. And many can't do that if they don't trust the bible, which is the word of God.

Every interpretation stands or falls on its own merit. Misinterpretations of one part of the Bible are reasons to mistrust the person who offers the interpretation, not a reason to mistrust other claims from the Bible.

Could you define how you mean 'faith' here?

It's my opinion (as well as others) that if the bible was the true word of God there'd be no errors, contradictions or ability to misinterpret. I guess those of us with this mind set have a higher standard for such a god.
By faith bolded above, I'm referring to how someone can believe or trust in the bible's bigger, more important issues when there are misinterpretations with little issues.

[Clownboat]

According to Christianity, our eternal destiny does not depend on rightly interpreting every thing in the Bible.

Which source? Paul or Jesus? I ask because they do not agree.

Paul's Christianity:
Rom 3:24 they are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus,
Rom 5:9 Since, therefore, we are now justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.

Jesus's purported Christianity (obviously, Jesus wrote nothing down himself):
Matt 12:37 for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.

So depending on who you ask, it seems eternal destiny is justified through the blood of Jesus if we ask Paul and by our words if we ask Jesus. Ironically, Christianity seems to have more believers in Paul then they do Jesus when it comes to their souls.

[JehovahsWitness]

Paul's Christianity:
Rom 3:24 they are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus,
Rom 5:9 Since, therefore, we are now justified by his blood, much more shall we be saved by him from the wrath of God.

Jesus's purported Christianity...
Matt 12:37 for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned.

The teaching of both Paul and Jesus are in complete harmony: Jesus was refering to judgement, Paul was refering to the release from adamic sin. Both Paul and Jesus taught that the basis for the forgiveness from sin was only through sacrifice.





JW

28-NOV 2018.
http://debatingchristianity.com/forum/v ... 68#p419968

29-JUN 2018
viewtopic.php?p=923107#p923107

20-JAN 2021
viewtopic.php?p=1029554#p1029554

[Tcg]

The teaching of both Paul and Jesus are in complete harmony: Jesus was refering to judgement, Paul was refering to the release from adamic sin. Both Paul and Jesus taught that the basis for the forgiveness from sin was only through sacrifice.

That depends on which Jesus you are talking about. Gospel John's Jesus taught a very different gospel than either Paul, and those who wrote using his name, and the synoptic authors. Complete harmony is not a claim that can be properly asserted here.


Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

That depends on which Jesus you are talking about.

I am talking about the Jesus as presented in the Christian Greek scriptures.

Gospel John's Jesus taught a very different gospel than either Paul, ...and the synoptic authors.

Do hou have any scriptural references to support such a claim?



JW

[Tcg]

That depends on which Jesus you are talking about.

I am talking about the Jesus as presented in the Christian Greek scriptures.

Which one?

Gospel John's Jesus taught a very different gospel than either Paul, ...and the synoptic authors.

Do hou have any scriptural references to support such a claim?

Sure. John 3:16.


Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

Gospel John's Jesus taught a very different gospel than either Paul, ...and the synoptic authors.

Do you have any scriptural references to support such a claim?

Sure. John 3:16.


Tcg

Beautiful scripture did you have a point to make about this verse?







JW

[Tcg]

Gospel John's Jesus taught a very different gospel than either Paul, ...and the synoptic authors.

Do hou have any scriptural references to support such a claim?

Sure. John 3:16.


Tcg

Beautiful scripture did you have a point to make about this verse?
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You asked for a reference. I gave it.


Tcg

[JehovahsWitness]

You asked for a reference. I gave it.


Tcg

John 3:16 does not support your claim.

Have a nice evening.



JW