We see 'the church' actively trying, throughout history, to control the sex lives of humanity. From saying what's right or what's wrong, to birth control, it seems like 'the church' has an interest in the sex lives of everyone, even committed couples. People even use the bible to say what's right and wrong in the context of sex.
While we can guess why 'the church' is interested in the sex lives of people, what's God's deal?
If he can see everything you do, why does sex seem to be one of his (many) hot buttons? Why does God want to control who (and in some cases, what) people have sex with?
Or does he not care and it's 'the church' that's taking up the battle?
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Why is sex so interesting to God?
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Re: Why is sex so interesting to God?
Post #101Unfaithfulness is the cause in your made up scenario, not sex.Dimmesdale wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:11 amWithout the addition of sex, there wouldn't have been unfaithfulness.Tcg wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:02 amNot based on sex, but rather on unfaithfulness. You do understand the difference?Dimmesdale wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:49 am Well, I outlined a scenario where literal death occurs.
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So it is still rooted in sex. The misuse of it.
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Re: Why is sex so interesting to God?
Post #102Yes, unfaithfulness DUE TO THE ATTRACTION OF ILLICIT SEX.Tcg wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:17 amUnfaithfulness is the cause in your made up scenario, not sex.Dimmesdale wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:11 amWithout the addition of sex, there wouldn't have been unfaithfulness.Tcg wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:02 amNot based on sex, but rather on unfaithfulness. You do understand the difference?Dimmesdale wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:49 am Well, I outlined a scenario where literal death occurs.
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So it is still rooted in sex. The misuse of it.
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NO ILLICIT SEX = NO MOTIVE for UNFAITHFULNESS.
Not a very difficult concept....
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Re: Why is sex so interesting to God?
Post #103Not difficult, it simply doesn't support your claim. You've now shifted from sex to "the attraction of illicit sex." In any case, it is still the unfaithfulness that caused the issue, not sex.Dimmesdale wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:22 amYes, unfaithfulness DUE TO THE ATTRACTION OF ILLICIT SEX.Tcg wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:17 amUnfaithfulness is the cause in your made up scenario, not sex.Dimmesdale wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:11 amWithout the addition of sex, there wouldn't have been unfaithfulness.Tcg wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:02 amNot based on sex, but rather on unfaithfulness. You do understand the difference?Dimmesdale wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:49 am Well, I outlined a scenario where literal death occurs.
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So it is still rooted in sex. The misuse of it.
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NO ILLICIT SEX = NO MOTIVE for UNFAITHFULNESS.
Not a very difficult concept....
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Re: Why is sex so interesting to God?
Post #104What is the source of evil, in general, to you? Many theists or even philosophers in general would say it is the prioritizing and valuing of lesser goods (like sex, or money, or power) over higher goods/priorities. That is I think the theory of evil most people hold to, whether knowingly or unknowingly.
Do you have an alternative view of evil? If so, I'd like to hear it.
I'm not saying sex is bad in itself. I'm simply arguing my assertion that it can be "used for death" or used in the service of death/destruction/evil. Like other goods.
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Re: Why is sex so interesting to God?
Post #105While unfaithfulness usually involves sex, it doesn't necessarily have to. Just like prayer usually involves thanking god or asking for favors, it doesn't necessarily have to. So the notion that unfaithfulness results in death because sex may be involved simply doesn't stand up---to put it politely.Dimmesdale wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:11 amWithout the addition of sex, there wouldn't have been unfaithfulness.Tcg wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:02 amNot based on sex, but rather on unfaithfulness. You do understand the difference?Dimmesdale wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:49 am Well, I outlined a scenario where literal death occurs.
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So it is still rooted in sex. The misuse of it.
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Re: Why is sex so interesting to God?
Post #106Yes, one can be unfaithful in a lot of ways. But in MY scenario sex was the forbidden fruit.Miles wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:46 pmWhile unfaithfulness usually involves sex, it doesn't necessarily have to. Just like prayer usually involves thanking god or asking for favors, it doesn't necessarily have to. So the notion that unfaithfulness results in death because sex may be involved simply doesn't stand up---to put it politely.Dimmesdale wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:11 amWithout the addition of sex, there wouldn't have been unfaithfulness.Tcg wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:02 amNot based on sex, but rather on unfaithfulness. You do understand the difference?Dimmesdale wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:49 am Well, I outlined a scenario where literal death occurs.
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So it is still rooted in sex. The misuse of it.
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Hence sex was the cause of the downfall and all the negative repercussions....
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Re: Why is sex so interesting to God?
Post #107............... I give up.Dimmesdale wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:08 pmYes, one can be unfaithful in a lot of ways. But in MY scenario sex was the forbidden fruit.Miles wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 3:46 pmWhile unfaithfulness usually involves sex, it doesn't necessarily have to. Just like prayer usually involves thanking god or asking for favors, it doesn't necessarily have to. So the notion that unfaithfulness results in death because sex may be involved simply doesn't stand up---to put it politely.Dimmesdale wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:11 amWithout the addition of sex, there wouldn't have been unfaithfulness.Tcg wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:02 amNot based on sex, but rather on unfaithfulness. You do understand the difference?Dimmesdale wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:49 am Well, I outlined a scenario where literal death occurs.
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So it is still rooted in sex. The misuse of it.
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Hence sex was the cause of the downfall and all the negative repercussions....
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Re: Why is sex so interesting to God?
Post #108Are you suggesting this is a bible based scenario? If so, may I ask why?
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Re: Why is sex so interesting to God?
Post #109That's pretty much a Catholic edict, which is applicable to only 22% of the people in the USA. Besides, nothing in the bible says that sexual intercourse is limited to procreation.chelayn256 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:30 pm Sex is meant to procreate. If you've noticed, many priests have 10 or more children in their families because they can't use contraceptives.
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