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Why is the bible needed at all?

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Nothing existed but God. One 'day' God decided to make everything. Thus life began, based on the biblical story.
Over time, things happened and God seemed to say to himself, 'Y'all know what? I think I need to start appointing people to write this junk down!"
Thus the bible began.
Over the years, he appointed more people to write down, not only what he said, but what he did.
Later, it was edited and translated and distributed throughout the planet.

Today, us lowly humans, have almost instant communication via the internet.

So it brings to question, why did God need the bible written down at all? Why doesn't God simply download what he wants us to know directly into our brains? Even before the wheel, God could have directed what he wants us to know in to our brains. He made our brains, our desire to know, think and understand many claim.
Surely this would have been better than an old fashion written word!
And yet, here we are (robots on other planets, DNA being sequenced, desiring to explore the universe) yet we still must rely on an old style, written word.
Why?
Why didn't God tell us directly what he wanted us to know and ignore the need for a written word at all?
Have a great, potentially godless, day!

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nobspeople wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:09 pm Nothing existed but God. One 'day' God decided to make everything. Thus life began, based on the biblical story.
Over time, things happened and God seemed to say to himself, 'Y'all know what? I think I need to start appointing people to write this junk down!"
Thus the bible began.
Over the years, he appointed more people to write down, not only what he said, but what he did.
Later, it was edited and translated and distributed throughout the planet.

Today, us lowly humans, have almost instant communication via the internet.

So it brings to question, why did God need the bible written down at all? Why doesn't God simply download what he wants us to know directly into our brains? Even before the wheel, God could have directed what he wants us to know in to our brains. He made our brains, our desire to know, think and understand many claim.
Surely this would have been better than an old fashion written word!
And yet, here we are (robots on other planets, DNA being sequenced, desiring to explore the universe) yet we still must rely on an old style, written word.
Why?
Why didn't God tell us directly what he wanted us to know and ignore the need for a written word at all?
My suspicion is that the Christian god was bored and simply created humans as entertainment, or at least a diversion. And in as much as perfect characters would be pretty uninteresting, he infused us all with limitations, and faults. So, play on Macduff. Let's see what happens around the next corner of mishaps, sin, and corruption.

As for, "Why didn't God tell us directly what he wanted us to know and ignore the need for a written word at all?" It's just part and parcel of the limitations he saw fit to imbue us with.



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nobspeople wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:09 pm Nothing existed but God. One 'day' God decided to make everything. Thus life began, based on the biblical story.
Over time, things happened and God seemed to say to himself, 'Y'all know what? I think I need to start appointing people to write this junk down!"
Thus the bible began.
Over the years, he appointed more people to write down, not only what he said, but what he did.
Later, it was edited and translated and distributed throughout the planet.

Today, us lowly humans, have almost instant communication via the internet.

So it brings to question, why did God need the bible written down at all? Why doesn't God simply download what he wants us to know directly into our brains? Even before the wheel, God could have directed what he wants us to know in to our brains. He made our brains, our desire to know, think and understand many claim.
Surely this would have been better than an old fashion written word!
And yet, here we are (robots on other planets, DNA being sequenced, desiring to explore the universe) yet we still must rely on an old style, written word.
Why?
Why didn't God tell us directly what he wanted us to know and ignore the need for a written word at all?
God created the universe under the law of opposites. Much like Newton's first law which states that for every action there must be an equal and opposite reaction. To appreciate sweet, one must have bitter. To appreciate light, one must have darkness. To test and prove the character of men suitable to live with, God gave man the choice to choose between light and darkness. Those of weak character, of course choice darkness, and reject the light, God's Word. For an earthly example, it is much like is what happening in politics today. The strong and patriotic, those of the light, choose MAGA, whereas the weak Marxist Progressives, of the darkness, choose sleepy Joe and his socialist minions, and will be judged accordingly. It gives a clear picture to those of the light who should be included and who were simply wolves in sheep's clothing. Whereas those of the darkness think they can eliminate the light, and cancel MAGA, they actually only illuminate the wolves for whom they really are. Kudos to the left and their boiling hatred. Don't get me wrong, 2/3 of the NT was written by the wolves in sheep's clothing, which means one must seek truth, and separate the tare seeds from the wheat seed, or the chaff from the wheat. If one has not the character to do the work involved, then well, look what at happened to the grass hopper.

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nobspeople wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:09 pm
Nothing existed but God.
So we are informed...

One 'day' God decided to make everything. Thus life began, based on the biblical story.
There is argument that there are more Realities than this universe...needless to say, we know life began...

Over time, things happened and God seemed to say to himself, 'Y'all know what? I think I need to start appointing people to write this junk down!"
Thus the bible began.Over the years, he appointed more people to write down, not only what he said, but what he did.
Later, it was edited and translated and distributed throughout the planet.
Speculation. More likely the stories were inventions of humans entertaining themselves in the dark of night around firesides. Authors decided at some point [after humans learned to write down the language they spoke,] said authors wrote down said stories.

Today, us lowly humans, have almost instant communication via the internet.
A sorely poor form of communication at best...perhaps this can improve...What the internet currently provides us with is a series of snapshots of how we have all been thinking since we [human beings] first began communicating with each other.
So it brings to question, why did God need the bible written down at all? Why doesn't God simply download what he wants us to know directly into our brains? Even before the wheel, God could have directed what he wants us to know in to our brains. He made our brains, our desire to know, think and understand many claim.
Surely this would have been better than an old fashion written word!
And yet, here we are (robots on other planets, DNA being sequenced, desiring to explore the universe) yet we still must rely on an old style, written word.
Why?
Why didn't God tell us directly what he wanted us to know and ignore the need for a written word at all?
Likely answer to that speculative question is that The Creator wanted the full experience, and thus The Creation got that as well.

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2ndpillar2 wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:14 pm
nobspeople wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:09 pm Nothing existed but God. One 'day' God decided to make everything. Thus life began, based on the biblical story.
Over time, things happened and God seemed to say to himself, 'Y'all know what? I think I need to start appointing people to write this junk down!"
Thus the bible began.
Over the years, he appointed more people to write down, not only what he said, but what he did.
Later, it was edited and translated and distributed throughout the planet.

Today, us lowly humans, have almost instant communication via the internet.

So it brings to question, why did God need the bible written down at all? Why doesn't God simply download what he wants us to know directly into our brains? Even before the wheel, God could have directed what he wants us to know in to our brains. He made our brains, our desire to know, think and understand many claim.
Surely this would have been better than an old fashion written word!
And yet, here we are (robots on other planets, DNA being sequenced, desiring to explore the universe) yet we still must rely on an old style, written word.
Why?
Why didn't God tell us directly what he wanted us to know and ignore the need for a written word at all?
God created the universe under the law of opposites. Much like Newton's first law which states that for every action there must be an equal and opposite reaction.
So god must abide by some law? I thought that being god he would be free of such a limitation. Couple of questions: How do you know such a law exists, AND Who established it?
To appreciate sweet, one must have bitter. To appreciate light, one must have darkness.
And why should appreciation be such a big deal? Wouldn't it be enough to simply have sweet without bitter, and have light without darkness?

To test and prove the character of men suitable to live with, God gave man the choice to choose between light and darkness. Those of weak character, of course choice darkness, and reject the light, God's Word.
And an omniscient god wouldn't know the character of each creature without testing for it? Boy, doesn't sound very all-knowing to me at all.

For an earthly example, it is much like is what happening in politics today. The strong and patriotic, those of the light, choose MAGA, whereas the weak Marxist Progressives, of the darkness, choose sleepy Joe and his socialist minions, and will be judged accordingly. It gives a clear picture to those of the light who should be included and who were simply wolves in sheep's clothing. Whereas those of the darkness think they can eliminate the light, and cancel MAGA, they actually only illuminate the wolves for whom they really are. Kudos to the left and their boiling hatred. Don't get me wrong, 2/3 of the NT was written by the wolves in sheep's clothing, which means one must seek truth, and separate the tare seeds from the wheat seed, or the chaff from the wheat. If one has not the character to do the work involved, then well, look what at happened to the grass hopper.
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nobspeople wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:09 pm
[W]hy did God need the Bible written down at all? [. . .] Why didn't God tell us directly what he wanted us to know and ignore the need for a written word at all?
The following is taken from Chapter 1, paragraph 1, of the Westminster Confession of Faith in modern language (emphasis mine): "Our natural understanding and the works of creation and providence so clearly show God’s goodness, wisdom, and power that human beings have no excuse for not believing in him. However, these means alone cannot provide that knowledge of God and of his will which is necessary for salvation. Therefore it pleased the Lord at different times and in various ways to reveal himself and to declare that this revelation contains his will for his church. Afterwards it pleased God to put this entire revelation into writing so that the truth might be better preserved and transmitted and that the church, confronted with the corruption of the flesh and the evil purposes of Satan and the world, might be more securely established and comforted. Since God no longer reveals himself to his people in those earlier ways, Holy Scripture is absolutely essential.

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nobspeople wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:09 pmSo it brings to question, why did God need the bible written down at all?
If he's real he doesn't.
nobspeople wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 12:09 pmWhy doesn't God simply download what he wants us to know directly into our brains?
For most people he did. Only psychopaths missed the boat.

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Miles wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 2:55 pm So, play on Macduff. Let's see what happens around the next corner of mishaps, sin, and corruption.
But the Christian God already knows everything. How boring would it be knowing exactly what's around the next corner all the time.
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2ndpillar2 wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:14 pm God created the universe under the law of opposites.
Assumes facts not in evidence.
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2ndpillar2 wrote: Thu Feb 11, 2021 4:14 pm To test and prove the character of men suitable to live with, God gave man the choice to choose between light and darkness.
What is the point of a test when you know the result in advance?
George Orwell:: “The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it.”
Voltaire: "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
Gender ideology is anti-science, anti truth.

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