Is Satan The Real God?

[Miles]

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It's commonly claimed that god is a pretty good guy: He:

knows everything…
is all-powerful…
is ever-present…
is sovereign…
is holy…
is absolute truth…
is righteous…
is just…
is love…
is merciful…
is faithful…
never changing

A partial list I'm sure, taken from HERE

Not exactly certain what all of these things are, and some will probably differ depending on whom you ask, but they all seem to be good attributes, and no doubt make him worthy of worship, but on reading about some of the other things he has done:

Sending Bears to Murder Children for making fu of a bald man (4 Kings 2:23-24)

Turning Lot's Wife to Salt for breaking a rule she didn't know existed (Genesis 19:26)

Hating Ugly People (Leviticus 21:17-24)

Committing So Much Genocide (many verses)

Ordering His Underlings to Kill Their Own Children (Genesis 22:1-12)

Killing Egyptian Babies (Numbers 16:41-49)

Killing a Dude for Not Making More Babies (Genesis 38:1-10)

Helping Samson Murder People to Pay Off a Bet (Judges 14:1-19)

Killing People for Complaining About God Killing Them (Numbers 16:1-49)

Everything He Did to Job (Job 1)

Condoning Slavery (Leviticus 25:44-46)

(Also a partial list)

one has to wonder just what kind of guy is running the show. A loving and benevolent god certainly wouldn't deceive people by doing dastardly things. Why would he? But a dastardly god, say one with the scruples of Satan who does a lot of deceitful and harmful things, could well try to deceive people into thinking he is good by occasionally doing the right a proper thing. So, where does this leave us? As I see it "the god of Abraham" reveals himself as more of an evil god (just to note, he does admit to creating evil) than a good god. In which case, it's far more likely that "Satan" is running the show.


What do you think?


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[William]

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Please point out in scripture where " his wife was coming behind him" ...

But his wife looked back from behind him, and she became a pillar of salt.
Gen. 19:26

Technically you got me, but if she is standing right behind him that is far different that "coming" behind him i.e. some distance back such that she would get consumed and he wouldn't.

This entire apology is ridiculous though because we have the angels telling Lot to get his family out. This means the angels would, if they are even semi competent, wait for Lot's entire family to cross whatever magical line means they made it to safety. Unless of course they are ruthless 'rules lawyers' and saw Lot's big toe touch the line and ignored everything else.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?s ... ersion=NIV

12 The two men said to Lot, “Do you have anyone else here—sons-in-law, sons or daughters, or anyone else in the city who belongs to you? Get them out of here, 13 because we are going to destroy this place. The outcry to the Lord against its people is so great that he has sent us to destroy it.”

It may be that the [two men] involved might not have given everyone in the family involved enough time to get to a safer place before the destruction happened because of near future events which would happen between Lot and his daughters...if indeed they knew what the future held...

"Lot's wife turns into a pillar of salt, but Lot and his daughters escape to Zoar, and end up living in a cave in the mountains. In Genesis 19:30-38 Lot's daughters got their father drunk, and over two consecutive nights had sex with him without his knowledge. They both got pregnant. The older daughter gave birth to Moab, while the younger daughter gave birth to Ammon.

According to Jewish tradition, Lot's daughters believed that the entire world had been destroyed, and that they were the only survivors. They therefore resorted to incest in order to preserve the human race." Lot's daughters