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Are atheists afraid of God?

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In response to Stephen Hawking's quip, "Religion is a fairy story for people afraid of the dark," apologist John Lennox said, "And atheism is a fairy story for those afraid of the light."

Do atheists fear that light aka God? I would answer no assuming I knew atheists to be completely sensible and rational in their rejection of theism, but they very often aren't sensible and rational in their unbelief. In this forum, for example, an atheist said he lost his belief in God when he realized that there are different religions. When I tried to explain to him that those conflicting faiths can be explained as some of them getting a real God wrong, well, it did me no good! It's simply illogical to conclude that God doesn't exist because some people disagree about him. His atheism is obviously based on faulty logic. What's odd about these cases involving atheists using poor reasoning to reject God is that those atheists seem quite reasonable otherwise. My guess is that they fear God and wish that he doesn't exist. Atheism is for them a sanctuary from theism and a hope that reality harbors no scary God.

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2ndpillar2 wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 12:28 pm ...
Not so clearly, since cicadas are also called 17 year locusts.
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2ndpillar2 wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 12:28 pm The locust of Revelation 9 aren't after plants, they are after people (Rev 9:4).
Perhaps you overlooked this fact about cicadas:
Cicadas don’t sting, and they don’t bite. The strawlike appendage they have instead of a mouth works only for inserting into tree bark.
Nothing to be afraid of here.


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Tcg wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 5:09 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 12:28 pm The locust of Revelation 9 aren't after plants, they are after people (Rev 9:4).
Perhaps you overlooked this fact about cicadas:
Cicadas don’t sting, and they don’t bite. The strawlike appendage they have instead of a mouth works only for inserting into tree bark.
Nothing to be afraid of here.


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If they, supposedly locust, and not a representation of what is to come, can insert them selves into bark, they can surely penetrate your soft skin. An alternative representation could be the "venom spitting" viper/cobra helicopter, except that they have a tendency to kill, and not torment men for 5 months. If they should penetrate your skin, hopefully you could document the following consequences of these modified walking dead beasts, possibly conjured up in the Wuhan Chinese labs, or in the "abyss" of hell (Rev 9:11).

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JoeyKnothead wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 12:42 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 12:28 pm ...
Not so clearly, since cicadas are also called 17 year locusts.
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I hear ya. Here's a picture of a cat...

Image

Cicada

Locust
Here is a picture of a locust looking Huey helicopter, whose wings have the sound of "chariots" (Rev 9:9).
https://www.flyer.co.uk/wp-content/uplo ... 00x645.jpg

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2ndpillar2 wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 11:05 am If they, supposedly locust, and not a representation of what is to come, can insert them selves into bark, they can surely penetrate your soft skin. An alternative representation could be the "venom spitting" viper/cobra helicopter, except that they have a tendency to kill, and not torment men for 5 months. If they should penetrate your skin, hopefully you could document the following consequences of these modified walking dead beasts, possibly conjured up in the Wuhan Chinese labs, or in the "abyss" of hell (Rev 9:11).
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2ndpillar2 wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 11:05 am
Tcg wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 5:09 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 12:28 pm The locust of Revelation 9 aren't after plants, they are after people (Rev 9:4).
Perhaps you overlooked this fact about cicadas:
Cicadas don’t sting, and they don’t bite. The strawlike appendage they have instead of a mouth works only for inserting into tree bark.
Nothing to be afraid of here.


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If they, supposedly locust, and not a representation of what is to come, can insert them selves into bark, they can surely penetrate your soft skin.
As has already been pointed out, they are not locusts. Further, there'd be no reason for them to suck blood as it would probably kill them:
Do cicadas bite or sting?

Cicadas obtain sustenance by drinking tree fluids, which are relatively watery compared to human blood. Drinking human blood would probably kill a cicada.

https://www.cicadamania.com/cicadas/do- ... -or-sting/

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Tcg wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 5:04 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 11:05 am
Tcg wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 5:09 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Tue May 11, 2021 12:28 pm The locust of Revelation 9 aren't after plants, they are after people (Rev 9:4).
Perhaps you overlooked this fact about cicadas:
Cicadas don’t sting, and they don’t bite. The strawlike appendage they have instead of a mouth works only for inserting into tree bark.
Nothing to be afraid of here.


Tcg
If they, supposedly locust, and not a representation of what is to come, can insert them selves into bark, they can surely penetrate your soft skin.
As has already been pointed out, they are not locusts. Further, there'd be no reason for them to suck blood as it would probably kill them:
Do cicadas bite or sting?

Cicadas obtain sustenance by drinking tree fluids, which are relatively watery compared to human blood. Drinking human blood would probably kill a cicada.

https://www.cicadamania.com/cicadas/do- ... -or-sting/

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The cicada, also known as the 17 year locust, die quickly anyway. If they think they can take you, an infidel, down, and that they can have 72 dates in heaven for their trouble, they are probably not afraid of death. The mosquito dies quickly, but they can cause death and disease in the mean time just by sticking in their blood straw. They don't have to drink your blood, all they have to do is take a sample and spit it out. These "locust" from the description in Revelation 9, are not your dime store variety. As they have tails like scorpions, their description lines up with US attack helicopters, except that a US helicopter is generally not in the business to let men live, unless they are spitting out chemicals instead of ordinance. Not to worry, for apparently no one is allowed to die. The punch line comes later when 1/3 of mankind is killed (Rev 9:18) by ordinance coming out "of their mouths" (Rev 9:18). Not to worry at that time, for the men still "did not repent of their murders....sorceries...immorality....nor of their thefts."

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2ndpillar2 wrote: The cicada, also known as the 17 year locust, die quickly anyway. If they think they can take you, an infidel, down, and that they can have 72 dates in heaven for their trouble, they are probably not afraid of death.
Cicadas are Muslims?

Does that mean turnips are Jews?
2ndpillar2 wrote: The mosquito dies quickly, but they can cause death and disease in the mean time just by sticking in their blood straw.
"Quickly" is a subjective term, once folks done set to scratching.
2ndpillar2 wrote: They don't have to drink your blood, all they have to do is take a sample and spit it out. These "locust" from the description in Revelation 9, are not your dime store variety.
You're problem here is showing Revelation 9 has it right...

Without your incessant preaching and bible thumping.
2ndpillar2 wrote: As they have tails like scorpions, their description lines up with US attack helicopters, except that a US helicopter is generally not in the business to let men live, unless they are spitting out chemicals instead of ordinance.
I'm currently now, and have been me for a good while, under the care of licensed psyciatrical counselling.
2ndpillar2 wrote: Not to worry, for apparently no one is allowed to die. The punch line comes later when 1/3 of mankind is killed (Rev 9:18) by ordinance coming out "of their mouths" (Rev 9:18). Not to worry at that time, for the men still "did not repent of their murders....sorceries...immorality....nor of their thefts."
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2ndpillar2 wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 8:50 pm As they have tails like scorpions, their description lines up with US attack helicopters, except that a US helicopter is generally not in the business to let men live, unless they are spitting out chemicals instead of ordinance.
Another difference is that cicadas are about 2 to 2 1/2 inches long. Attack helicopters are more like 50 feet long. That's a difference of about 598 inches. Oh, and helicopters don't hibernate at all much less for 17 years.


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Tcg wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 11:00 pm
2ndpillar2 wrote: Thu May 13, 2021 8:50 pm As they have tails like scorpions, their description lines up with US attack helicopters, except that a US helicopter is generally not in the business to let men live, unless they are spitting out chemicals instead of ordinance.
Another difference is that cicadas are about 2 to 2 1/2 inches long. Attack helicopters are more like 50 feet long. That's a difference of about 598 inches. Oh, and helicopters don't hibernate at all much less for 17 years.


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